Scott playing for fc the only thing you have left in the cock measuring competition between both clubs?

What? It's a thread about our new signing and hugely positive comments from supporters at clubs he's played for already.

Considering we finished above you in SL and won 2 of 3 derbies we'd hardly need to get the measuring equipment out. The extent to which you were spent and flaccid on the big stage this season isn't something I'd be shining a light on tbh.

Well you would win such a contest easily as you have far more cocks on your forum than us. Unfortunately they seem to outnumber the sensible posters such as Stan and Barham.

Seems to be putting himself about a bit and saying he's working hard before formal pre season starts, which is backed up by comments about his professionalism from Salford fans. www.hulldailymail.co.uk/Scott-Ta ... story.html

Seems to be putting himself about a bit and saying he's working hard before formal pre season starts, which is backed up by comments about his professionalism from Salford fans. www.hulldailymail.co.uk/Scott-Ta ... story.html

If Taylor is only half as good as the legendary Michael (Mick) he will be a great asset.

Do you mean Bob? As in Bob Taylor who was a legendary player. I remember my dad going on about him. Or are you referring to Mick Scott? I'm confused but that could just be my age!

It was an oblique reference to Mick Scott. Bob, a second rower, was also a favourite of my dad. Sorry for any confusion.

Looks like he's feeling in good nick, and in "better condition" than in his double-winning season at Wigan. Whilst this is the usual pre season filler from the HDM he does look trim. Tim Sheens was quoted recently as saying he'd have bent over backwards to retain him had it been possible. With him and Watts both 24-25 and therefore in theory with development/improvement still in front of them, hope they can both have very good seasons. Both are contracted beyond next season too. Looking forward to seeing them in action. www.hulldailymail.co.uk/Hull-FC- ... story.html

Looks like he's feeling in good nick, and in "better condition" than in his double-winning season at Wigan. Whilst this is the usual pre season filler from the HDM he does look trim. Tim Sheens was quoted recently as saying he'd have bent over backwards to retain him had it been possible. With him and Watts both 24-25 and therefore in theory with development/improvement still in front of them, hope they can both have very good seasons. Both are contracted beyond next season too. Looking forward to seeing them in action. www.hulldailymail.co.uk/Hull-FC- ... story.html

Quote ="Mrs Barista"Looks like he's feeling in good nick, and in "better condition" than in his double-winning season at Wigan. Whilst this is the usual pre season filler from the HDM he does look trim. Tim Sheens was quoted recently as saying he'd have bent over backwards to retain him had it been possible. With him and Watts both 24-25 and therefore in theory with development/improvement still in front of them, hope they can both have very good seasons. Both are contracted beyond next season too. Looking forward to seeing them in action. www.hulldailymail.co.uk/Hull-FC- ... story.html'" In your opinion would you say it'd be better to not have them on the pitch at the same time to avoid the disparity we've had with regard to interchange in the past? Given we now have a first class pack and in some depth too, should we be starting with our two best props, sure you can go for the Blitzkrieg in the first 20 minutes with our best props/back row but if that doesn't work what then, I think a more balanced approach and keep Taylor and Watts apart.

Quote ="Mrs Barista"Looks like he's feeling in good nick, and in "better condition" than in his double-winning season at Wigan. Whilst this is the usual pre season filler from the HDM he does look trim. Tim Sheens was quoted recently as saying he'd have bent over backwards to retain him had it been possible. With him and Watts both 24-25 and therefore in theory with development/improvement still in front of them, hope they can both have very good seasons. Both are contracted beyond next season too. Looking forward to seeing them in action. www.hulldailymail.co.uk/Hull-FC- ... story.html'" In your opinion would you say it'd be better to not have them on the pitch at the same time to avoid the disparity we've had with regard to interchange in the past? Given we now have a first class pack and in some depth too, should we be starting with our two best props, sure you can go for the Blitzkrieg in the first 20 minutes with our best props/back row but if that doesn't work what then, I think a more balanced approach and keep Taylor and Watts apart.

That was only a problem because our interchange was weaker but now it's stronger I don't think there will be a noticeable drop in intensity

I think the balance is better this year. Paea was often played in 3 stints whereas Taylor is more suited to longer spells. We have Ellis as a rotation at prop this term, a luxury we didn't have last year, whose intensity is still excellent, then Feka's impact can be optimised. Backing up we then have Green, Bowden and a couple of academy players who've debuted. In the back row Mini can probably still do 80 and we have loads of depth here. On balance I'd see Ellis as a prop, which means we've upgraded year on year (Taylor and Ellis for Paea), and we still have plenty of options in the back row, where Pritchard and Manu replace Ellis and Westerman, with Mini starting and back up of Washbrook, Hadley, Thompson, Whiting, Yeaman, Turgut etc.

If everyone is fit then my four props would be Taylor, Watts, Ellis and Manu. Who starts I am undecided.

Manu at prop?
Back three or off the bench for me.

If fit you could easily go with just three props in Watts, Taylor and Ellis, as all capable of big minutes.

Personally think the 4th spot is a three way battle between Feka, Green and Bowden.

Big year for the last two as a big year needed to get a new contract.

Why would you want to go with 3 props? Similar to our over use of our back rowers, you may have players who are physically capable of long minutes but it doesn't make it the right thing to do and you are inevitably storing up problems for later in the season as we've seen plenty of times in recent years. I presume that radford's thinking is 4 props, possibly including ellis, with abdul and a back rower on the bench. I wouldn't be at all surprised if washbrook is a shoe in for 13 then gives houghton 10 minutes early each 2nd half with manu, pritchard and mini rotating back row. ellis could also flit between front and back row as needed. Problem is we have a lot of forwards the wrong side of 30 so we need to be looking after them properly, nurturing them through the season and not flogging them for 80 minutes each week.

I personally wouldn't but it's an option. Hooker apart plenty of depth and options and as you say, no forward needs to be flogged and play 80 minutes.

Really tough to pick a starting pack and bench.

Not really. houghton, ellis, mini, pritchard, manu, taylor, watts and washbrook will all play when fit. Only really one place up for grabs in the 17 assuming abdul gets a bench spot

Manu or abdull IMO will start looseforward

The scott taylor thread on the Wigan forum is interesting reading.....

I still don't believe abdull will start at 13 despite the squad number. Will have had to have been a monumental shift in the coaching staffs thinking during the off season. Plus in a single off season he'll of had to become 20/30% improved in defence. More than that in physical stamina and more again in physical strength and dominance to cope with the endless stream of big men the opposition will purposefully direct at him.
If he can achieve all these I'm on board with the idea. Apart from 1 small thing imo.

He looks like(in the way he plays) a half back. A very good half back. And his unconventional build isn't gonna brainwash me into thinking he's a 13

Not really. We all know that he has bags of ability. We also know that at some point during his time at Wigan he decided he wanted to come home. What we don't really know is how it was handled by the two parties. Did Wane spit his dummy out and say if your heart isn't in it we don't want you? Or did Taylor display a poor attitude in order to try and push the move through? Simply deciding you want to leave a top side doesn't make you unprofessional or lacking in ambition, although I can see why Wigan fans might take that view.

Whatever you think about the quality (or lack of) in the Salford squad, the fact he took all their awards tells you something about his attitude. It would have been very easy to coast through last season doing the bare minimum.

There look everyone...a reasoned response.
My take on it. He's wasted a massive opportunity at Wigan to have a stellar career. He's blown that and he certainly didn't look after himself physically during his second season at Wigan and turned up at Salford over weight. He could go well for you but there are serious doubts about him for me over a long period.

So why are you bothered about him??....surely it should be us that is bothered but he wants to be here and he should go well for us.

The thread about him reads pretty positive to me, big part of a double winning team and one of the best props in the league if he wants to be. Let's be honest he had one disappointing season on his career at Wigan and that's because he had a fall out with Wane. For whatever reason he wanted to move home and play for us, maybe he should have stayed at Wigan a couple more years, but if he wasn't happy there then he has made the direct decision. ( I had a great job abroad, but gave it up to move back to be near family)

Anyone who knows Scott, knows he is a great kid, he is very smart and hard working and I'm sure he put 100% into his time at Hull and do very well.

Stop talking sense mate,Burton will only come and have another meltdown.As for falling out with Wane,not a hard job there.