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| =#FF0000Lets not go down that path - PM
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| Quote ="edinburgh yorkie"=#FF0000Lets not go down that path - PM'"
Comments like that are not helpful.
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| Quote ="World of Redboy"Did I read that correctly. The SMC sent Hull City Council an invoice for the privilege of flying the Council flag over a council owned facility?'"
Does anyone know if the Council or KComms have paid their invoices?
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| Quote ="Hull White Star"So I was told. And KComms too. All three organisations received them.'"
The Allams are certainly not doing themselves any favours are they.
Did Phil Webbo say the SMCs contract is up for renewel in 2017 as if so thats the end of the Allams connection with Hull City
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| Quote ="Sebasteeno"The Allams are certainly not doing themselves any favours are they.
Did Phil Webbo say the SMCs contract is up for renewel in 2017 as if so thats the end of the Allams connection with Hull City'"
I don't think it's "up" so much as there is a re-negotiation clause between the Council and the SMC, but it depends what terms etc are included.
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| Quote ="Chris71"I think all this with Assem Allam just shows him up for the bully boy dictator he really is?
Just more proof that as long as everyone bows down to him he's ok but should he not get his own way then he'll do whatever he can until he does.
The guy clearly has no morals for someone proclaimed himself to be the saviour!! Yeh right what a crock of poop that is.
The KC Stadium is a Community Stadium of the people of Hull and is NOT OWNED by Assem Allam which seems to be the root of the problem. As a Council owned facility the stadium should be full of the whole City's sporting history as a matter of PRIDE NOT PRICE.
My worry not only for Hull Fc but also for Hull City is that it could ge the end if both if the Allams get ownership of the Stadium.
All Allam has done is prove that HCC were right to refuse him rhe purchase of the KC never mind the fact he never actually came up with an offer that was even remotely market value.
[uFinally Mr Allam it seems you have made yourself wealthy but sadly with all your money you can not buy humility, honour[/u or gratitude and would rathet ride roughshod over a city and its people who gave you a safe place to live and raise your family.'"
Big money men are not interested in this, and sadly there will still be plenty of people in this city who will still be kissing his backside.
I think this is just a game for this guy and I fear he will stop at nothing until he get's what he wants (the stadium), I think this is only the beginning, it's going to get messy that's for sure.
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| Quote ="Bet Lynch"(the stadium)'"
I increasingly believe he doesn't actually give a monkies about the stadium, he wants Walton Street car park and West Park.
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| Quote ="Standee"I increasingly believe he doesn't actually give a monkies about the stadium, he wants Walton Street car park and West Park.'"
Thats my thoughts which I said a few pages back too. IMO the stadium would just be an added bonus (or millstone around his neck, depending on how he sees it).
We all know what he "thinks" the people of Hull think of Hull Fair, that not a lot of people go and the majority would rather see it developed
It would go beyond just sports fans of this City if he rages a campaign to aquire Walton Street and West Park. I can imagine most of the residents of this City would be in uproar.
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| why have the club (hullfc) not commented on this outrage, surely astaement of the facts would help.in any case whatever the problem the memoribillia must go back up!!
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| Can you actually buy a park, surely this isn't possible. He will never get his hands on West Park
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| Allam is starting to show his true colours now. At first I thought this guy wanted to give the city of Hull a top footbll team and sporting village facilities which all sounded encouraging. Yes he did save city from being in financial ruins (like Pompey and Rangers) which I did applaud for but now he's a fricking nutcase. I want City to succeed and do well but most importantly I want FC to succeed and the way he has disrespected legends of the club is disgraceful. I miss the Boulevard and it would be great to have our own little home again! But this isn't going to happen in this financial climate. There's more to come so be prepared!
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| Quote ="subwaysav"why have the club (hullfc) not commented on this outrage, surely astaement of the facts would help.in any case whatever the problem the memoribillia must go back up!!'"
Maybe they are still in private negotiations with the SMC, or maybe they are sitting back, quietly, letting it take its own course. IMO they are doing the right thing. To get into a public slanging match with Mr Allam would be stooping down to his petty level.
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| Quote ="Hullandproud"Can you actually buy a park, surely this isn't possible. He will never get his hands on West Park'"
A few parks have gone as part of development (Queen Elizabeth Playing fields) now houses a school! also lots of school fields were sold for development several years ago. They tend to build mini parks now on the new housing developments.
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| Quote ="Hull White Star"Maybe they are still in private negotiations with the SMC, or maybe they are sitting back, quietly, letting it take its own course. IMO they are doing the right thing. To get into a public slanging match with Mr Allam would be stooping down to his petty level.'"
yeah see your point
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| Quote ="Bet Lynch"A few parks have gone as part of development (Queen Elizabeth Playing fields) now houses a school! also lots of school fields were sold for development several years ago. They tend to build mini parks now on the new housing developments.'"
One of the big thing trumpeted about the KC (and that attracted Sport England funding) was it's "park land setting", I cannot see any Councillor allowing the Allams (or anyone else) to buid in the parklands, in fact, I never really saw where his "sports village" was going, but then as HWS states, people in Hull hate the fair don't they, so it can go on Walton Street, no problem.....
the guy is a lunatic, and the only thing worse than a lunatic is a lunatic megalomaniac and the only thing worse than a lunatic megalomaniac is a lunatic megalomaniac with money and the only thing worse than a lunatic megalomaniac with money is a lunatic megalomaniac with money, and a petty personal vendetta.
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| Quote ="jehull"Allam is starting to show his true colours now. At first I thought this guy wanted to give the city of Hull a top footbll team and sporting village facilities which all sounded encouraging. Yes he did save city from being in financial ruins (like Pompey and Rangers) which I did applaud for but now he's a fricking nutcase. I want City to succeed and do well but most importantly I want FC to succeed and the way he has disrespected legends of the club is disgraceful. I miss the Boulevard and it would be great to have our own little home again! But this isn't going to happen in this financial climate. There's more to come so be prepared!'"
I never trusted him from the moment he popped up. He tried to buy one of the Sheffield clubs before the he got his hands on City, so he wasn't looking out for the people of Hull. He's a ruthless businessman and his business comes first. He’s no philanthropist eiher, everything he does has a motive. I’ll state hear and now that this will all end badly for Hull City, I don’t know when but it will.
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| Quote ="Standee"One of the big thing trumpeted about the KC (and that attracted Sport England funding) was it's "park land setting", I cannot see any Councillor allowing the Allams (or anyone else) to buid in the parklands, in fact, I never really saw where his "sports village" was going, but then as HWS states, people in Hull hate the fair don't they, so it can go on Walton Street, no problem.....
the guy is a lunatic, and the only thing worse than a lunatic is a lunatic megalomaniac and the only thing worse than a lunatic megalomaniac is a lunatic megalomaniac with money and the only thing worse than a lunatic megalomaniac with money is a lunatic megalomaniac with money, and a petty personal vendetta.'"
The problem I have is most politicians and councilors also have form for being underhand and going back on promises and being seduced or had over by guys like Allam...
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| Quote ="Smiggs"I never trusted him from the moment he popped up. He tried to buy one of the Sheffield clubs before the he got his hands on City, so he wasn't looking out for the people of Hull. He's a ruthless businessman and his business comes first. He’s no philanthropist eiher, everything he does has a motive. [uI’ll state hear and now that this will all end badly for Hull City, I don’t know when but it will[/u.'"
I think you maybe right, however my concern is how it will affect Hull FC, I pray we are not a casualty of this ruthless businessman.
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| Quote ="Bet Lynch"The problem I have is most politicians and councilors also have form for being underhand and going back on promises and being seduced or had over by guys like Allam...'"
you'll get no disagreement from me on that one, "when you need a ticket for the gravy train, you have to acquire it yourself", a sentence said to me by a serving councillor (not at HCC I might add)
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| Quote ="jehull"Allam is starting to show his true colours now. At first I thought this guy wanted to give the city of Hull a top footbll team and sporting village facilities which all sounded encouraging. Yes he did save city from being in financial ruins (like Pompey and Rangers) which I did applaud for but now he's a fricking nutcase. I want City to succeed and do well but most importantly I want FC to succeed and the way he has disrespected legends of the club is disgraceful. I miss the Boulevard and it would be great to have our own little home again! But this isn't going to happen in this financial climate. There's more to come so be prepared!'"
Allam has shown his true colours from day one, for those who wished to see. Problem is many were blinded by the 'saviour of Hull City' thing. Alarmingly, people who don't have a vested interest - I.e. the majority of voters in Hull - will still view it like this first and foremost, and not bother to look further.
His crazy rants (coconuts and toffee apples) and petulance (Melton), coupled with his business shrewdness (Hull City were bought with a loan from Allam Marine; Hull KR's 'gift' was also a loan) and ruthlessness (Pearson, Barmby and now Picturegate) show what a dangerous adversary he is. And has been all along.
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| Quote ="WormInHand"Allam has shown his true colours from day one, for those who wished to see. Problem is many were blinded by the 'saviour of Hull City' thing. Alarmingly, people who don't have a vested interest - I.e. the majority of voters in Hull - will still view it like this first and foremost, and not bother to look further.
His crazy rants (coconuts and toffee apples) and petulance (Melton), coupled with his business shrewdness (Hull City were bought with a loan from Allam Marine; Hull KR's 'gift' was also a loan) and ruthlessness (Pearson, Barmby and now Picturegate) show what a dangerous adversary he is. And has been all along.'"
Absolutely correct, I was speaking to some folks who are in a badminton team (not rugby fans) and the general consensus was that Allam was a great guy who was interested in all sports in the city!
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| Quote ="subwaysav"why have the club (hullfc) not commented on this outrage, surely astaement of the facts would help.in any case whatever the problem the memoribillia must go back up!!'"
I strongly suspect that the club have / will be doing one of two things;
1) Working out a strategy to appease the fans of Hull FC when it becomes known that they refused to pay for the putting up of pictures as they didn't see it as an issue.
OR as I strongly suspect
2) They are sitting back and allowing us the fans a say on the matter and watching as this rides out in the media and Allam is shown for the fool he is. It will only generate bad feeling in the area towards Mr Allam and his family and in turn his business interests. When the time is good AP and HFC will comment which I am certain will be some time after the issue has been resolved.
I will add I think one or two need reminding that the money for the stadium came from the sale of a company that serviced the East Riding not just Hull. The people who have the STD code 01482 all have a stake in that stadium. Mr Allam is being foolish if he thinks that it is merely the people of Hull he has to concentrate on.
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| A lot more questions need to be asked of this man before much too long. He and his cohorts are a danger to the fine club that we support. Need to keep him close otherwise we are in deep bother. The writing has been on the wall from day one.
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| see as the kc.com agreed to be the name of the stadium in 2002 (signed a 10 year contract) and in 2012 didn't kc agree a deal for the naming rights of the stadium till now 2025 ????????
so the kc stadium is here till 2025 (i think lol) after that it might by call "THE ALLAM'S STADIUM"
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| If he strengthens city at the back he could call it the Alamo.
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