I walked past the training ground last week and Fonua was hanging off a cross bar whilst Feka and Radders hung off each leg

Nobody's having a 'dig'. Unless you think that Shaul is the perfect FB right now and has no areas of his game that he might want to improve? I'm pretty sure that neither he nor the coaching staff think that however.

This is a fans forum and i dont think people are having a go at Jamie Shaul but simply pointing out the area of his play which needs to improve.
If he had Rankins ability when joining the attacking line and stop getting dragged into touch so much he would no doubt be Englands full back.
Im sure Jamie and the coaches are working to improve his link attack option but he is still a very good full back in my opinion

anyone seem tomkins lately when he joins the line? what happens to shaul happens to him too, other teams watch them and stop their play, its upto our halves to create better lines too

So this thread now has nothing to do with the actual topic heading and has now become a farcical debate over Shaul.
Ridiculous.

Tomkins was the single biggest reason wigan won the other day.
Linked in and provided the pass on 1 wing. Scored a try he had no right to score and then provided a cut out try pass on the opposite wing. Wigan had this outlet as an option. No hooker on field. Smith ineffective. Shauls best fullback this year. Definitely. We've won many games this year with guts spirit and some individuals. Shaul himself sometimes. But been a few games we've lost or struggled were good structured well executed plays would have done it. He's got to add this to his game. For himself and for us. Next year is gonna by so much harder. Now we're 1 of the big boys we're gonna have to find some extras. From signings and from current squad. Few %s gonna make a difference. Shaul finds a pass in his game will help loads

Not having a dig what's so ever

Exactly this!

Don't think our coordination issues out wide at times are usually down to Jamie. Half backs need to be more polished and commit more defenders further in field for me.

....halfbacks who (nearly) always pass make it much easier for the defensive line. Holdsworth was a classic example of this.

On the subject of Shaul I think teams have seen the threat he possesses in his running early season and now defend against us a little differently to try to nulify his running. Plus apart from Sneyd we still do not have a quality pairing at 6 & 7 (don't think Sneyd & Carlos pair well personally) so agaion this makes it more difficult for Shauil to be as effective in an attacking threat as he can be.

The way you really notice as to how good Shaul is and how important he is to this team is in the games when he hasn't played. When this has happened this season we have really struggled to break teams down and score, we certainly miss his link up and running.

Defensively he is sound and attacking threat he has a plenty if we can use him fully. Yes there have been a few occasions where he should have passed to allow us to score and vice versa but he hasn't been and won't be the only one who is guilty of that.

Shaul hasnt been as affective fir the last 7-8 or weeks because as a team weve been a lot more conservative, only off loads coming out wide from fonua, and not down the middle with shaul supporting . Im not having a go, because weve done pretty dam good in that period, would like to see us been a bit more risky again, and getting shaul some ball with scattered defences. Think carlos and snyed have worked together well, and not the reason for shauls lack of attacking threat in recent weeks

fonua is just over 6 feet.

Wide?

Rumour of Naughton also going, must be lining up a winger.

Or Michaels is staying

I hope the club are thinking long term aswell as short term, academy merger and then releasing 4 young players.

I really think we need some pace on the wing next season, we have one of the best kickers in the league and with a pacey winger it could be a useful tactic.

Maybe we are justin for one.

seems naughton rumour is just that according to twitter

Noggers ‏@Youngnogg 9m9 minutes ago Central Coast, New South Wales
@HFC_NEWS @James_Smailes Naughton leaving is just made up. Also, "signed from Rabbitohs" shocking 'journalism'. Can't even get prev club

Disappointing if true and I'd personally rather we kept naughton than signed connor who seriously lacks any pace

If Yeamo is retiring, does the ten year service cap relief now switch to Danny Houghton?

Apologies, can't remember how it works?

Yes, looks like Micheals is staying and announced tomorrow, hope Naughtons brother is right and he is also staying.

Heard the same regards Michaels , good news if true .

Hope so.

Michaels is just a really good, reliable player, who doesn't let us down.

Michaels staying would be excellent news. Happy with Naughton staying too, wouldn't expect him to be much more than 1-5 cover for next season but he's a dependable option to have.