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| .... why do you keep repeating the same things over and over again?
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| Quote ="nottinghamtiger"This is exactly why the NRL introduced an integrity unit.
What the video shows is a player calling a woman a slut, a whore and making threats to assault her.
Of course, supporters of the club the player represents immediately look for other angles, the most ridiculous one being that it shouldn’t have been filmed.
I’m afraid there is one person responsible and accountable for his behaviour and that is Albert Kelly. If he doesn’t do it, it doesn’t get filmed. It’s really that simple. Next, we’ll be claiming we shouldn’t put people in prison because they have been filmed committing a crime on CCTV. He’s a professional sportsman, in public, making an absolute tool of himself. Of course someone’s going to film him. It’s hardly an invasion of his privacy, is it? Perhaps if he wasn’t behaving in such a foul and abusive manner, whoever has decided to film him wouldn’t have done so.
I’m afraid he only has himself to blame. Going around calling women sluts, whores and threatening to assault them was his choice and he’ll face the consequences.'"
Get a life!
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| Think I'd be taken the shaggy stand on this one if i was Albert "it wasn't me"
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| Quote ="nottinghamtiger"This is exactly why the NRL introduced an integrity unit.
What the video shows is a player calling a woman a slut, a whore and making threats to assault her.
Of course, supporters of the club the player represents immediately look for other angles, the most ridiculous one being that it shouldn’t have been filmed.
I’m afraid there is one person responsible and accountable for his behaviour and that is Albert Kelly. If he doesn’t do it, it doesn’t get filmed. It’s really that simple. Next, we’ll be claiming we shouldn’t put people in prison because they have been filmed committing a crime on CCTV. He’s a professional sportsman, in public, making an absolute tool of himself. Of course someone’s going to film him. It’s hardly an invasion of his privacy, is it? Perhaps if he wasn’t behaving in such a foul and abusive manner, whoever has decided to film him wouldn’t have done so.
I’m afraid he only has himself to blame. Going around calling women sluts, whores and threatening to assault them was his choice and he’ll face the consequences.'"
The difference being that CCTV would've shown the whole incident and not just the juicy bit
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| Quote ="nottinghamtiger"This is exactly why the NRL introduced an integrity unit.
What the video shows is a player calling a woman a slut, a whore and making threats to assault her.
Of course, supporters of the club the player represents immediately look for other angles, the most ridiculous one being that it shouldn’t have been filmed.
I’m afraid there is one person responsible and accountable for his behaviour and that is Albert Kelly. If he doesn’t do it, it doesn’t get filmed. It’s really that simple. Next, we’ll be claiming we shouldn’t put people in prison because they have been filmed committing a crime on CCTV. He’s a professional sportsman, in public, making an absolute tool of himself. Of course someone’s going to film him. It’s hardly an invasion of his privacy, is it? Perhaps if he wasn’t behaving in such a foul and abusive manner, whoever has decided to film him wouldn’t have done so.
I’m afraid he only has himself to blame. Going around calling women sluts, whores and threatening to assault them was his choice and he’ll face the consequences.'"
yes, you said already.
no player from Cas has ever done the same, identical things don't happen in Nottingham each and every week, I'm sure. The lace market is all guitars and hymns of a friday evening...
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| Clearly this is unacceptable language, whatever the provocation. Perhaps the club could help in determining if he has an alcohol problem as one approach. Like every other business, they certainly ought to be focusing on “equality, diversity and safeguarding” awareness.
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| Quote ="nottinghamtiger"This is exactly why the NRL introduced an integrity unit.
What the video shows is a player calling a woman a slut, a whore and making threats to assault her.
Of course, supporters of the club the player represents immediately look for other angles, the most ridiculous one being that it shouldn’t have been filmed.
I’m afraid there is one person responsible and accountable for his behaviour and that is Albert Kelly. If he doesn’t do it, it doesn’t get filmed. It’s really that simple. Next, we’ll be claiming we shouldn’t put people in prison because they have been filmed committing a crime on CCTV. He’s a professional sportsman, in public, making an absolute tool of himself. Of course someone’s going to film him. It’s hardly an invasion of his privacy, is it? Perhaps if he wasn’t behaving in such a foul and abusive manner, whoever has decided to film him wouldn’t have done so.
I’m afraid he only has himself to blame. Going around calling women sluts, whores and threatening to assault them was his choice and he’ll face the consequences.'"
Don't think any Hull FC fan has condoned Kellys behaviour, far from it but the pitiful whining from posters such as yourself is quite honestly pathetic. The fact todays society seems to revel in trial by social media is sadly a barometer of where standards are now.
Christ if i videoed everything I heard going about my job on a daily business I'd never stop filming. Yes Kelly has a been a total tool no denying but is it the crime of the century? NO. Stop the press 'Guy drunk gives verbal to a woman' c'mon are we a country of softies and lefty luvvies now?
He will be dealt with by the club internally and rightly so and the end of the day its a matter between Kelly and his employers.
Get off your high horse and pull your moral compass out your backside and ask yourself what was said immediately beforehand to provoke the reaction?
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| Just wonder if fans of other clubs would be as morally outraged if it was a player who was less of a threat on the pitch to them?
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| Nobody is saying that Kelly shouldn't be punished, just you demanded he was sacked or the club condones abuse to women, which is nonsense.
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| Quote ="PCollinson1990"yes, you said already.
no player from Cas has ever done the same, identical things don't happen in Nottingham each and every week, I'm sure. The lace market is all guitars and hymns of a friday evening...'"
Can’t say I remember any other players calling people sluts and whores, nope.
Nor have I heard anyone doing the same in Nottingham (though doubtless it does happen).
Of course unpleasantness happens. But just because it happens, doesn’t mean it should be condoned. I wouldn’t support any player at Cas who did the same thing.
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| Lol at the cas and rovers morons hoping and praying Albert gets banned/fined/sacked/deported/executed
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| Quote ="nottinghamtiger"Can’t say I remember any other players calling people sluts and whores, nope.
Nor have I heard anyone doing the same in Nottingham (though doubtless it does happen).
Of course unpleasantness happens. But just because it happens, doesn’t mean it should be condoned. I wouldn’t support any player at Cas who did the same thing.'"
So why are you repeating the same guff? No one on here has condoned Kellys actions far from it but the baying mob (you being one) wanting him strung from the highest lamppost for drunkenly spouting off is over the top.
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| Quote ="Dave K."Nobody is saying that Kelly shouldn't be punished, just you demanded he was sacked or the club condones abuse to women, which is nonsense.'"
I've witnessed worse, far worse, IN the Palace of Westminster, from elected members (and believe me, some really are "members"icon_wink.gif, he should get a telling off. Had it been any other player nobody would care. Vile KR fans perpetuating a non story.
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| Quote ="Chris71"So why are you repeating the same guff? No one on here has condoned Kellys actions far from it but the baying mob (you being one) wanting him strung from the highest lamppost for drunkenly spouting off is over the top.'"
Didn’t realise I was to be honest. Might have posted roughly the same post twice thinking it was on the VT - many apologies.
I’m not in the ‘baying mob’ I don’t think. If he was my employee, he’d be dismissed. Not doing so would send out completely the wrong message to female workers in my opinion.
However, there are other options I suppose that will show that the club doesn’t condone the behaviour but allow them to keep his undoubted on-field talents.
As a wider point, I think clubs have too much of a vested interest in not addressing player misconduct. From Hull’s perspective, they aren’t going to dismiss him as we all know he’d simply sign elsewhere. That’s why the NRL introduced an independent integrity unit to deal with such matters.
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| Quote ="nottinghamtiger"Didn’t realise I was to be honest. Might have posted roughly the same post twice thinking it was on the VT - many apologies.
I’m not in the ‘baying mob’ I don’t think. If he was my employee, he’d be dismissed. Not doing so would send out completely the wrong message to female workers in my opinion.
However, there are other options I suppose that will show that the club doesn’t condone the behaviour but allow them to keep his undoubted on-field talents.
As a wider point, I think clubs have too much of a vested interest in not addressing player misconduct. From Hull’s perspective, they aren’t going to dismiss him as we all know he’d simply sign elsewhere. That’s why the NRL introduced an independent integrity unit to deal with such matters.'"
dismissed, on what grounds. He has a PRIVATE life, no COMPLAINT was made no ARREST or CAUTION.
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| KR fans vile for "perpetuating" this story.
Kelly abuses women, and it's nothing new we haven't seen before and blown out of proportions.
Sound priorities there fella.
FWIW him been hammered doesn't bother to me, in high pressure environments people need to let off steam. But you can't go round insulting strangers regardless of whether you are pro athlete or not. ( hence so many people getting banned off social media nowadays)
To brush it off as KR trouble making is laughable and those not condeming this action and subsequent consequences are really putting there head in the sand on this. If this happened say in leeds on a night out instead of Hull i feel there would be eternal condemnation, but the supposed KR fan involvement is making people have black and white blinkers and its not a good look.
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| Quote ="mean_machine"KR fans vile for "perpetuating" this story.
Kelly abuses women, and it's nothing new we haven't seen before and blown out of proportions.
Sound priorities there fella.
FWIW him been hammered doesn't bother to me, in high pressure environments people need to let off steam. But you can't go round insulting strangers regardless of whether you are pro athlete or not. ( hence so many people getting banned off social media nowadays)
To brush it off as KR trouble making is laughable and those not condeming this action and subsequent consequences are really putting there head in the sand on this. If this happened say in leeds on a night out instead of Hull i feel there would be eternal condemnation, but the supposed KR fan involvement is making people have black and white blinkers and its not a good look.'"
but you can kick the daylights out of someone on a roubdabout?
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| Quote ="mean_machine" .....but the supposed KR fan involvement....'"
So the guy who posted the video isn't a hkr supporter? I wonder why he went to Oldham yesterday.
Video taken, he says, "from a private rovers page on facebook".
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| Quote ="nottinghamtiger"Didn’t realise I was to be honest. Might have posted roughly the same post twice thinking it was on the VT - many apologies.
I’m not in the ‘baying mob’ I don’t think. If he was my employee, he’d be dismissed. Not doing so would send out completely the wrong message to female workers in my opinion.
However, there are other options I suppose that will show that the club doesn’t condone the behaviour but allow them to keep his undoubted on-field talents.
As a wider point, I think clubs have too much of a vested interest in not addressing player misconduct. From Hull’s perspective, they aren’t going to dismiss him as we all know he’d simply sign elsewhere. That’s why the NRL introduced an independent integrity unit to deal with such matters.'"
If he was your employee and you dismissed him for doing something in his own time you will find yourself in court for unfair dismissal.
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| Quote ="Chris71"If he was your employee and you dismissed him for doing something in his own time you will find yourself in court for unfair dismissal.'"
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| Quote ="mean_machine" If this happened say in leeds on a night out instead of Hull i feel there would be eternal condemnation, '"
This very thing did indeed happen in Leeds on Saturday night outside Queens Court as it happens a 'woman screaming utter bile and insulting two blokes, one told her to reel her neck in and with that her bloke then took offence to his gobby 'ed out her head' woman so started a brawl. So where is the eternal condemnation??? Errrrrrrrr there isn't any because it it unfortunately a fairly regular occurrence nowadays, does that make it acceptable? No but sad fact is that's life.
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| Quote ="Chris71"This very thing did indeed happen in Leeds on Saturday night outside Queens Court as it happens a 'woman screaming utter bile and insulting two blokes, one told her to reel her neck in and with that her bloke then took offence to his gobby 'vexed out her head' woman so started a brawl. So where is the eternal condemnation??? Errrrrrrrr there isn't any because it it unfortunately a fairly regular occurrence nowadays, does that make it acceptable? No but sad fact is that's life.'"
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| Quote ="PCollinson1990"facts are unwelcime, you know that!'" I wonder what nottinghamtiger thought about the homophobic abuse Castleford fans put Gareth Thomas through which resulted in a £40,000 fine.
"The tribunal was chaired by his Honour Judge Rodney Grant, who criticised the club for failing to take steps to stop the homophobic chanting, for failing to identify the perpetrators, for failing to challenge the chanting and for their failure to undertake a meaningful inquiry afterwards."
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