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| Will we make the top 8?
In a word NO
It will be back to normal after losing at Warrington
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| Quote ="bonaire"Will we make the top 8?
In a word NO
It will be back to normal after losing at Warrington'"
I fear you'll be right. Not buying all this, we've won 4 of the last 5 and still in the CC. Could be a whole lot different by the end of may
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| Quote ="Tinkerman23"Not buying all this, we've won 4 of the last 5 and still in the CC.'"
Facts sell themselves.
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| Quote ="*1865*"Facts sell themselves.
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Ha, true, I did think that when I read it back. Just it doesn't make me feel more positive about the rest of the season or that we've turned a corner
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| Not sure on the system but if we finish 5th to 8th is that game over .
Only top 4 play off then the bottom 4 have a mini league with top 4 Championship .
Have I got this right or misled ??
If is the case are we getting used to empty our pockets for the extra games?
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| Going against the grain but hey might as well be positive. IMO if we get sum injured players back and get the half's firing heck we can do it COYH
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| Quote ="oud3pstander"Not sure on the system but if we finish 5th to 8th is that game over .
Only top 4 play off then the bottom 4 have a mini league with top 4 Championship .
Have I got this right or misled ??
If is the case are we getting used to empty our pockets for the extra games?'"
Top eight play another 7 games before the top 4 playoffs, so passholders won't be "emptying their pockets".
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| Quote ="oud3pstander"Not sure on the system but if we finish 5th to 8th is that game over .
Only top 4 play off then the bottom 4 have a mini league with top 4 Championship .
Have I got this right or misled ??
If is the case are we getting used to empty our pockets for the extra games?'"
Each division will play two full rounds (22 games) with the top division also playing an extra game at the Etihad for Manchester Magic. The top eight will carry their points into a seven game round robin after which the top four will play Semi finals (1v4, 2v3) to reach the Grand Final at Old Trafford.
Not sure about paying for the round robin games
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| Quote ="Tinkerman23"Each division will play two full rounds (22 games) with the top division also playing an extra game at the Etihad for Manchester Magic. The top eight will carry their points into a seven game round robin after which the top four will play Semi finals (1v4, 2v3) to reach the Grand Final at Old Trafford.
Not sure about paying for the round robin games'"
The 2015 season pass covers the post split games. Wherever we finish, we will have 3 or 4 home games in August/September and these are covered within the season ticket.
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| I tipped us to finish in the bottom 4, and I certainly don't think anything has changed to alter my predictions. . Weve been awful, and i cant see it improving anytime soon
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| ok so after today's game we sit on 12 points. we can assume 22 points will pretty much guarantee 8th (and perhaps 20 or 21 might do it). so we are looking at another 5 wins, most likely from the following sources (in order of likeliness)
wakey - home and away. drop any points here and we don't deserve to do it anyway
cas - home. should be more than capable of 2 points here
rovers - either win at newcastle or at their place. newcastle being more likely. both would be nice and is possible
widnes - away. a win on the plastic is an outside bet
saints - home. we have a decent home record against them but i think they will win this time
wigan - home. on current form i would say zilch here
catalan - away. no chance
leeds - away. likewise
so we look like having to win either on widnes home (ahem) turf or poorhouse lane to make it. i can see 4 wins from 9, but 5 is going to be tough. that said if you told me before the season started we would win at hudds, saints and wire i would have thought you insane, so really who knows? if i was to bet on it i would have us falling just short in 9th
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| Quote ="berro's best mate"I tipped us to finish in the bottom 4, and I certainly don't think anything has changed to alter my predictions. . Weve been awful, and i cant see it improving anytime soon'"
Is the next game soon enough?
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| Got a tough run of fixtures in SL, then a good run home, if we can win 2/3 of the next 5, then it would be a good return.
Really target the next two SL games as both winnable and then beat Widnes or Catalans away then I think we will finish at least 8th.
Reckon it will go to the last game.
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| be close but think we can make 8th
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| I can feel I'm going to get a slating for my next comments. But if we do make the 8 what then? Safety and the guarantee of SL next year....fantastic, but the remainder of this season I fear will see us getting battered from one of the park to another. The Warrington result was fantastic, but in general this year has shown that as a club were simply out of our depth and hanging on due the lack of understanding of what is needed to succeed. Then groundhog day will begin again in 2016.
There is a positive to finishing outside of the 8, in I feel it would provide a greater chance of change for the club. Sometimes you have to go backwards before moving forwards.
I'll go and hide now before the abuse starts.
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| Quote ="Lostyorkie"I can feel I'm going to get a slating for my next comments. But if we do make the 8 what then? Safety and the guarantee of SL next year....fantastic, but the remainder of this season I fear will see us getting battered from one of the park to another. The Warrington result was fantastic, but in general this year has shown that as a club were simply out of our depth and hanging on due the lack of understanding of what is needed to succeed. Then groundhog day will begin again in 2016.
There is a positive to finishing outside of the 8, in I feel it would provide a greater chance of change for the club. Sometimes you have to go backwards before moving forwards.
[uI'll go and hide now before the abuse starts.[/u'"
Smart move.
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| Quote ="Lostyorkie"I can feel I'm going to get a slating for my next comments. But if we do make the 8 what then? Safety and the guarantee of SL next year....fantastic, but the remainder of this season I fear will see us getting battered from one of the park to another. The Warrington result was fantastic, but in general this year has shown that as a club were simply out of our depth and hanging on due the lack of understanding of what is needed to succeed. Then groundhog day will begin again in 2016.
There is a positive to finishing outside of the 8, in I feel it would provide a greater chance of change for the club. Sometimes you have to go backwards before moving forwards.
I'll go and hide now before the abuse starts.'"
I completely agree, what's the point scraping into the 8, 10 points behind 4th spot, season may as well be over. If we are to make the 8, need to be in touching distance of 4th
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| Quote ="Lostyorkie"I can feel I'm going to get a slating for my next comments. But if we do make the 8 what then? Safety and the guarantee of SL next year....fantastic, but the remainder of this season I fear will see us getting battered from one of the park to another. The Warrington result was fantastic, but in general this year has shown that as a club were simply out of our depth and hanging on due the lack of understanding of what is needed to succeed. Then groundhog day will begin again in 2016.
There is a positive to finishing outside of the 8, in I feel it would provide a greater chance of change for the club. Sometimes you have to go backwards before moving forwards.
I'll go and hide now before the abuse starts.'"
As it stands and we win our game in hand, we would be one point from 4th, hopefully we will perform better in the 2nd half of the season and remain with at least 4 points of the top 4, if not closer.
Despite being pretty poor we have only been battered by Leeds (2nd half) and have played Wigan, Saints, Warrington and Hudds, who will all be in the play offs and we beat 3 of them and should have drawn the other.
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| Quote ="Dave K."As it stands and we win our game in hand, we would be one point from 4th, hopefully we will perform better in the 2nd half of the season and remain with at least 4 points of the top 4, if not closer.
Despite being pretty poor we have only been battered by Leeds (2nd half) and have played Wigan, Saints, Warrington and Hudds, who will all be in the play offs and we beat 3 of them and should have drawn the other.'"
The bulk of our remaining games are away from the KC and 2 of the 4 left at home are wigan and saints so will be tough. If we scrape into the 8 that's all it will be. Don't see us being anywhere near the top 4.
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| Quote ="Lostyorkie"I can feel I'm going to get a slating for my next comments. But if we do make the 8 what then? Safety and the guarantee of SL next year....fantastic, but the remainder of this season I fear will see us getting battered from one of the park to another. The Warrington result was fantastic, but in general this year has shown that as a club were simply out of our depth and hanging on due the lack of understanding of what is needed to succeed. Then groundhog day will begin again in 2016.
There is a positive to finishing outside of the 8, in I feel it would provide a greater chance of change for the club. Sometimes you have to go backwards before moving forwards.
I'll go and hide now before the abuse starts.'"
Depends on your definition of battered. As mediocre as we have been under Radford the only heavy defeats (lets say by 18+ points) have been Wigan home and away last season and Leeds at home this season.
There is no positive in finishing outside the top eight. Wanting the club to fail in the expectation that it will mean Radford leaves is ridiculous.
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"The bulk of our remaining games are away from the KC and 2 of the 4 left at home are wigan and saints so will be tough. If we scrape into the 8 that's all it will be. Don't see us being anywhere near the top 4.'"
Four at home, five away and one neutral. Not overwhelmingly against us, besides which our away record is better this year so far than our home record.
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| if we get our arris in gear we will make top 8,Imo 5 out of 6 is good going in anybodys book albeit not the best rugby on show,but we can get better
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| Quote ="ComeOnYouUll"Four at home, five away and one neutral. Not overwhelmingly against us, besides which our away record is better this year so far than our home record.'"
So 60% away from the KC and 50% of our home games we'll start as underdogs in. We've won 6 games, 3 away and 3 at home. Admittedly we've lost a smaller % of away games
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| If we have ambitions of doing more than just scraping into the 8 and making up the numbers then we have to target the next three, and they are all winnable.
Saints at home, they have been hit and miss this year, Walsh is out, and our place has been a bogey ground for them. Rovers at Newcastle is anyone's game. Widnes on the plastic is tough but we stuck 50 on them last year and so should be confident.
We have to win at least two of them imo because we then travel to France and Leeds and I can't see anything at all from those. If we go on a run of 1 win (or worse) in 5 then we are right back in bother again.
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| Big plus v saints
Walsh will be missing for a month
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