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| Quote ="carl_spackler"The rules you quote say up to 8 in total don't they? I'd go with:
5 quota - Berrigan, Lauaki, Fitzgibbon, scrum-half, destructive prop or full back
Non-quota - Manu, Moa, destructive prop/fullback or centre'"
As a Tongan doesn't Lauaki count as Non Quota.
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| Quote ="Smiggs"As a Tongan doesn't Lauaki count as Non Quota.'"
No, see the link to the HullFC.com article.
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| Our quota system seems to be like our UKBA system just depends on who you ask
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| Quote ="carl_spackler"The rules you quote say up to 8 in total don't they? I'd go with:
5 quota - Berrigan, Lauaki, Fitzgibbon, scrum-half, destructive prop or full back
Non-quota - Manu, Moa, destructive prop/fullback or centre'"
Either way however we recruit, (impossible to say what passport they will have as we don't know who is available) the fact is we have spaces and options to play about with.
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| I think lauki has a new zealand passport but im sure if he applies for a tongan one, then he would count as kolpak instead of overseas.
If thats right then isnt it in Hulls best interest to get him to change it?
That would then give us the option of bringing in ANOTHER QUALITY aussie.
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| Quote ="PAUL M"Either way however we recruit, (impossible to say what passport they will have as we don't know who is available) the fact is we have spaces and options to play about with.'"
Which is great, as long as we use it to our advantage. I just fear we'll end up with more steady players in positions we're fairly ok in and miss out on what we really need. Are there any other NRL backrowers or even wingers off contract?
I'd love it if we went out there to sort the scrum half situation properly and brought someone like Inu back as well, I think he could really excel at fullback in SL.
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| Quote ="Mr Biff"I think lauki has a new zealand passport but im sure if he applies for a tongan one, then he would count as kolpak instead of overseas.
If thats right then isnt it in Hulls best interest to get him to change it?
That would then give us the option of bringing in ANOTHER QUALITY aussie.'"
Why? who are the others?
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| Quote ="carl_spackler"Which is great, as long as we use it to our advantage. I just fear we'll end up with more steady players in positions we're fairly ok in and miss out on what we really need. Are there any other NRL backrowers or even wingers off contract?
I'd love it if we went out there to sort the scrum half situation properly and brought someone like Inu back as well, I think he could really excel at fullback in SL.'"
That's all we ask.
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| Quote ="PAUL M"That's all we ask.'"
Exactly. Unfortunately we just haven't had it consistently enough in recent years, as evidenced by the lack of confidence in it changing and defeatist attitude towards actually getting the names linked to us.
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| Quote ="carl_spackler"Exactly. Unfortunately we just haven't had it consistently enough in recent years, as evidenced by the lack of confidence in it changing and defeatist attitude towards actually getting the names linked to us.'"
The trouble is the very top names won't always come accross especially when they are young. I would love to see someone like Hayne, Inu or Jennings comes over to SL to play but I can't see it happening.
If the Eels are having financial troubles then I would look at trying to get Joel Reddy, great young centre.
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| Quote ="PAUL M"I think so yes. Byrne and Crocker are two spaces plus we don't know what is happening with Cusack and Tony.'" Paul what J rule did say that Hull had the Space and money to attract big named players even if it meant having a smaller squad I wasn't the only one who was at the meeting there was an member from Hull voices there ..she is well known to the forum plus the meeting will have been minuted
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| Quote ="biffa.fc"will the minutes be available for public scrutiny or will it be kept in house?'" The people who went to the meeting will get the minutes we alway do
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| Quote ="Whiting"Tony doesn't want another contract... he wants to go back to the NRL'"
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| are you part of a supporters group like fc voices were ?
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| Quote ="biffa.fc"are you part of a supporters group like fc voices were ?'" It was the Disabled Supporters Group Meeting
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| Quote ="PAUL M"The trouble is the very top names won't always come accross especially when they are young. I would love to see someone like Hayne, Inu or Jennings comes over to SL to play but I can't see it happening.
If the Eels are having financial troubles then I would look at trying to get Joel Reddy, great young centre.'"
I know, it is a tough one. It's just frustrating that when they do, it rarely seems to be us doing the enticing. Try making a list of players from the last 5 years who came over to play for us whilst they were under 29 years old, it's slim pickings. Why we have such a poor record of this is a serious question that needs addressing.
I wonder what the chances of Anderson clearing a few players out for his own signings are. I also would have thought if the offer was right Inu might be gettable, as his international career is still manageable from SL and we could tell him he can work with the local community as missionary work.
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| Quote ="carl_spackler"I know, it is a tough one. It's just frustrating that when they do, it rarely seems to be us doing the enticing. Try making a list of players from the last 5 years who came over to play for us whilst they were under 29 years old, it's slim pickings. Why we have such a poor record of this is a serious question that needs addressing.
I wonder what the chances of Anderson clearing a few players out for his own signings are. I also would have thought if the offer was right Inu might be gettable, as his international career is still manageable from SL and we could tell him he can work with the local community as missionary work.
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| Quote ="carl_spackler"I know, it is a tough one. It's just frustrating that when they do, it rarely seems to be us doing the enticing. Try making a list of players from the last 5 years who came over to play for us whilst they were under 29 years old, it's slim pickings. Why we have such a poor record of this is a serious question that needs addressing.
I wonder what the chances of Anderson clearing a few players out for his own signings are. I also would have thought if the offer was right Inu might be gettable, as his international career is still manageable from SL and we could tell him he can work with the local community as missionary work.
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I still don't believe this is all down to the Club, I think it also has to do with the area, whether we like it or not, let's face it the Rover's players were not big stars and they maybe thought they would chance their arm, this is not the standard we are hoping to attract, what we want to attract are the likes of what are attracted to Leeds, Wigan, Saints where it is no secret they have major towns or cities right on their doorstep.
The amount of bad press this area has had over the years for one reason or another must be reflected across the world as being what they know us for. Not a team currently in the top eight with three major cup finals in 4 years. Just a thought!
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| Quote ="PAUL M"You should be working for Hull FC
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| Quote ="Airlie Birds Wing"I still don't believe this is all down to the Club, I think it also has to do with the area, whether we like it or not, let's face it the Rover's players were not big stars and they maybe thought they would chance their arm, this is not the standard we are hoping to attract, what we want to attract are the likes of what are attracted to Leeds, Wigan, Saints where it is no secret they have major towns or cities right on their doorstep.
The amount of bad press this area has had over the years for one reason or another must be reflected across the world as being what they know us for. Not a team currently in the top eight with three major cup finals in 4 years. Just a thought!'"
I appreciate the point to a certain extent, it is a harder sell by reputation. I disagree about the Rovers signings, they have managed it where we have failed. I would have Vella over Cusack in a heartbeat, and I'd be inclined for Newton or Galea ahead of Fitzgibbon.
We also don't seem to trade off our previous signings much. Even if the area has a bad reputation, this doesn't mean the club can't have a good one. ATEOTD, we're only a short trip along the motorway or even less time by train from other major cities, hardly isolated from civilisation. Get this point across, have former players singing our praises, and pay the going rate and we should be a destination prospective imports should favour.
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| Quote ="carl_spackler"I appreciate the point to a certain extent, it is a harder sell by reputation. I disagree about the Rovers signings, they have managed it where we have failed. I would have Vella over Cusack in a heartbeat, and I'd be inclined for Newton or Galea ahead of Fitzgibbon.
We also don't seem to trade off our previous signings much. Even if the area has a bad reputation, this doesn't mean the club can't have a good one. ATEOTD, we're only a short trip along the motorway or even less time by train from other major cities, hardly isolated from civilisation.'"
I see what you are saying with Vella, Newton and Galea but they didn't come with the reputations we appear to be requiring or chasing at the moment.
Both Cusack and Fitzgibbon are more well known, don't get me wrong I am not saying that is the right way to do things and yes the other way for Rover's has paid off, but it might not have done.
Not saying we are isolated and agree we are only a short trip away it still doesn't take away the reputation of the area they would be living in, rightly or wrongly!
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| Quote ="dandaman"thought these pages where for rumours an not discussions????'"
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| Thing is though money talks at the end of it all.
If we put big enough/good enough offers to players that are top drawer then I think we would at least stand a chance but based on previous years and losing out to other SL clubs it would seem we don't offer a good enough deal/package.
It seems we may have a problem with the allocation of the salary cap and maybe we pay over the odds for the average players we have leaving us less for the top dollar players?
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