Agree. There's a strong argument that our relatively injury-free 2016 season meant that we were poor at the back-end of that season (along with the effect of the wembley cup euphoria). Also think that Saints last year had a similar problem and so Holbrook is trying to use his squad more this season.

Yeah, like getting beat by bottom and then beating top. Are you Standee or Mrs Barista?

The coach will play what he thinks is his best team to get a win
Wont be considering resting anyone including Westerman but its likely Ellis will be on the bench so someone will miss out

Are you on crack , or just a fool , don’t make me , make you look stupid and get me a ban . I’m trying to be good

Reflecting on last week, perhaps Westy should be protected rather than rested, imagine if he did suffer a recurrence with more serious side effects, the sensible thing to do would be to sit it out, and make sure he’s not suffered any damage.

Is this not a double entendre.

Non mosieur

Not our call
Westerman will play as will Ellis

Always a fixture that will live in my memory taking me back to June 2010 when I went to my first Hull home match since leaving England in 1966. An absolute classic match with Hull coming back from a 20 point deficit to win by a drop goal in the final minutes by 27-26. Houghton and Washbrook started and Radford played off the bench.

Disappointed it is not being shown live on TV here. Am predicting a win for us. Hope it's another great game.

Have a read what Scott Taylor says about Gareth Ellis in the Mail today
Unreal that we start to win when he turns up

A few of the clowns on here wanted rid of Gaz after his first injury plagued season.

Some people judge players on how many times they break the line and miss everything else players do. I blame poor eyesight and strong ale.

My eyes are f00ked and I'm a p!ssshead but I can still recognise greatness.

Griffin centre, Carlos bench

With Savelio missing he will move to the second row in the second half

too big too fast and play with a brain
too many penalties again
another Warrington performance coming up

does anyone have a commentary link, seems Roverside don't want to help...

Game put to bed on the first quarter unfortunately - Saints just too good. Picking up a few knocks too. We've been very rushed in the rare moments we've had good field position and hammered for penalties. Not often I mention the referee but not been impressed.

I wouldn't bother tbh

Saints are good but they're not that good. No excuse to be 34-0 down after 55 mins

Failed the latest test, Saints are good, but we are so far off them.

Not sure I'd want to play them at Wembley.

Nothing wrong with the referee
Saints as i said just too big and fast especially round the ruck area which we just cant handle,
You also have to look at their ball handling and pass compared to ours.
We are just too slow.
What is shows once again is how poor we are in reality

Dont worry we wont beat Warrington in the semi

Far too slow moving up in the defensive line just stood waiting for St’s means we just gift them Field position & momentum nearly every set and slowing then far too much time and space. Our forwards are non existent tonight but then again so are the rest. Poor and embarrassing performance made it far too easy with schoolboy errors and penalties. Some very poor decisions by the officials too but we’ve been worse.
Just shows that we need quality up front as we’ve dominated again.

Classic all saving themselves for the semi type performance - nobody wants to get injured, they dont give two s about Super League but think they can win the CC again - which we wont