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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"Remarkably similar punctuation and grammar you two, must be like talking to yourself. Fun times.
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Marc Sneyd though. Good player, worth good money IMO.'"
Whoops predictive text ( crew ) ... too many drinks . You should let you’re hair down now and again , more to life then hull at times !
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| Quote ="Windy winger"Whoops predictive text ( crew ) ... too many drinks . You should let you’re hair down now and again , more to life then hull at times !'"
Why so nasty and vitriolic all the time? Let's just all just chill out and enjoy these good times. Adrian Durham made a very good point. Long may Marc Sneyd keep managing our games.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"4 from 4. There's no need for personal attacks like this, just be nice please. The question was really about the lack of potential replacements for Marc Sneyd had he been lured back West. The fact we are likely to have paid a premium reflects the market but also other factors perhaps that meant he wanted to stay. Stability of coaching set up possibly.'"
You seriously began this and derailed the thread with your attack on me but as always are oblivious and ignorant to the fact and always attempt to claim the moral high ground.
It is okay for you to insult and attempt to belittle other posters but yet when done to yourself by anyone you threaten bans.
Then as sure as night follows day your cronies follow you up, support your warped reality and then you all adopt the pack mentality and round on said poster, it just so happens to be my turn in the chair.
Seriously =#FF0000It is against the AUP to use poster's correct names, unless they are a part of their user name. Please refrain from this going forward, thank you, Karen if you can't take it, don't dish it would be my advice to you.
Be tolerant of others, try not to be smarmy and clever and the world will be a better place.
Anyway glad Sneyd is secured for a while longer he's been in good form this season.
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| Quote ="Isaiah"If you loved the club then you would work permanent late shifts, as we nearly always seem to win when you are at work
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You are a funny fecker
Work 10 week shift rotation as some of us have jobs, try it some time.
As a pass holder always take home game off as holidays and have done for the last 20 years I've had my particular job so go and figure that 1.
Think you should change your name anyway from Isiah to anyiah, because any higher you'd be coming out of Barista's mouth.
See what I did there.
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| Quote ="Bombed Out"You seriously began this and derailed the thread with your attack on me but as always are oblivious and ignorant to the fact and always attempt to claim the moral high ground.
It is okay for you to insult and attempt to belittle other posters but yet when done to yourself by anyone you threaten bans.
Then as sure as night follows day your cronies follow you up, support your warped reality and then you all adopt the pack mentality and round on said poster, it just so happens to be my turn in the chair.
Seriously =#FF0000Original post editedif you can't take it, don't dish it would be my advice to you.
Be tolerant of others, try not to be smarmy and clever and the world will be a better place.
Anyway glad Sneyd is secured for a while longer he's been in good form this season.'"
Nailed it. That’s why this forum has about 1/4 of the posters it used to have.
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| Quote ="spegs"Nailed it. That’s why this forum has about 1/4 of the posters it used to have.'"
exactly
They view it as a closed shop.
Disagree, you get targeted, told not to post or even attend games
It infuriates me hence whilst I'll defend myself or any other poster I perceive to be being bullied by this group, because bullying is what it is.
Also a few beers last night shortened my fuse
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| Quote ="spegs"Nailed it. That’s why this forum has about 1/4 of the posters it used to have.'"
I think there's fault on both sides here. Nobody seems tolerant of any one else's opinions any more.
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| Quote ="Hessle Roader"I think there's fault on both sides here. Nobody seems tolerant of any one else's opinions any more.'"
Without wanting to derail the thread further, I think the intolerance is a fact of life these days. There's a real divide in our country and there doesn't seem to be any respect for a view that is different to one an individual believes. IMO social media has heightened this because you can select the views your see day to day and block out the ones that you don't like, adding to the belief that your opinion is the correct and only one.
I've been guilty of this, but realised and over the past couple of years have tried to research and understand the 'other side' to whatever the argument is.
Sneyd has been getting better and better over the past few years and it's a real pleasure to see him thrive with the help of Kelly, Connor, Shaul, and this year Westy. Expected to lose him, but it seems that there's a real desire to compete with our club at the moment which is exciting.
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| Quote ="Hessle Roader"I think there's fault on both sides here. Nobody seems tolerant of any one else's opinions any more.'"
Seriously mate there isn't, take an objective view, always the same group, always the instigators, Barista on this occasion, although she'll accept no responsibility for her actions.
Posters like myself don't form allegiances on here or live a fictional friendship, unlike said group.
However I will defend and support others.
Due to Barista this is now how this thread has developed and been derailed.
All I did was post a non offensive, non personal reply on topic to then be insulted and belittled by her and the usual suspects.
It's constant perpetual motion with this group hence why Spegs comment is a valid one.
We are all Hull fans, who come on here to exchange views, garner gossip and hopefully enjoy the banter and conversation.
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| Quote ="Bombed Out"You seriously began this and derailed the thread with your attack on me but as always are oblivious and ignorant to the fact and always attempt to claim the moral high ground.
It is okay for you to insult and attempt to belittle other posters but yet when done to yourself by anyone you threaten bans.
Then as sure as night follows day your cronies follow you up, support your warped reality and then you all adopt the pack mentality and round on said poster, it just so happens to be my turn in the chair.
Seriously Caroline if you can't take it, don't dish it would be my advice to you.
Be tolerant of others, try not to be smarmy and clever and the world will be a better place.
Anyway glad Sneyd is secured for a while longer he's been in good form this season.'"
You're just being silly and a little oversensitive I think. As you say, perhaps the alcohol was a factor. Here's how I see it.
As a fanbase there's a definite bias to negativity in my opinion in the context of what the club are trying to achieve and in fact have delivered. We're not the biggest club, we certainly don't have a benefactor, we don't have assets to leverage. My view is that we're doing OK at worst, but aalctially punching above our weight to a reasonable extent. You could therefore assume a fans message board would have that as its tone, or that we'd at least choose to employ the "praise and criticise in equal measure" - your words not mine - approach.
What actually happens is we get thread upon thread when times are challenging - look at the Radford thread for example a few weeks ago when people were making outrageous claims about the damage he was doing to the club - but when things are a bit rosier - top 3 now and in the CC semi final there's nothing from this same set despite this "equal measure" fairytale..Yiu seem not to like it when this point is made, but it's true.
This notion of "bullying" is beyond precious and a bit hypocritical too if you don't mind me saying so. As said, your only posts in a week we put 4 points between us and Cas are about me. Whereas I have posted about all sorts of things - perhaps that reflects what we are interested in, I don't know. Whichever way you look at it, you could say this is closer to "bullying" but really? All that's happening is sharing of contexf which people don't like being reminded of.
As for "pack mentality" - where to start? Some people agree with my points, many more don't, but that's their choice. You and many others enjoy replaying the club's shortcomings, I prefer a more positive lens on the world and a few partially agree with this. That's fine, isn't it? I can't help others' negative bias but neither do I feel the need to be dragged down by it.
I really think folk must be tired of this - happy to continue obviously. Sneyd's value to us is exceptional in the context of alternative half backs we currently see, so I do think it was very good business by the club to keep him. Let's hope we also get another year from Kelly, in great form right now.
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I've been guilty of this, but realised and over the past couple of years have tried to research and understand the 'other side' to whatever the argument is.
Sneyd has been getting better and better over the past few years and it's a real pleasure to see him thrive with the help of Kelly, Connor, Shaul, and this year Westy. Expected to lose him, but it seems that there's a real desire to compete with our club at the moment which is exciting.'"
Great post. So much is dumbed down to binary, extreme narratives. Like you I have done a little research more into why social media perpetuates more negativity than positivity. I do find it odd conceptually that in a society where we have so many choices about what we do, where we go - people invest so much time complaining about stuff they can't control rather than just doing something else or taking positive action on something else. It's a strange & wonderful world we live in.
The loose forward point is intriguing. I like Westerman and the role he plays but do wonder whether we'll revert to a 3rd prop model. Not too many players in Joe's mould kicking around.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"Great post. So much is dumbed down to binary, extreme narratives. Like you I have done a little research more into why social media perpetuates more negativity than positivity. I do find it odd conceptually that in a society where we have so many choices about what we do, where we go - people invest so much time complaining about stuff they can't control rather than just doing something else or taking positive action on something else. It's a strange & wonderful world we live in.
The loose forward point is intriguing. I like Westerman and the role he plays but do wonder whether we'll revert to a 3rd prop model. Not too many players in Joe's mould kicking around.'"
It’s labelled “The vociferal minority”, a bit like Brexit, the majority voted for it but a minority want to derail it, bit like this forum.
Loose forward as you say has become the extra prop but teams are putting ball handling props in there with excellent results, hate to say it but before Westy, Watts was the ideal candidate. Ligi Sau’s position next season, to keep the spine going and aid Sneyd.
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| Quote ="Armavinit"It’s labelled “The vociferal minority”, a bit like Brexit, the majority voted for it but a minority want to derail it, bit like this forum.
Loose forward as you say has become the extra prop but teams are putting ball handling props in there with excellent results, hate to say it but before Westy, Watts was the ideal candidate. Ligi Sau’s position next season, to keep the spine going and aid Sneyd.'"
Not heard that term before but it's a good one. Completely agree on Watts, has great hands and would have been perfect. Gone a bit quieter on recruitment just now, maybe holding news o follow after our next loss. Has Sau been formally announced yet? Lose track with the press trailing stuff and actual announcements.
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| Personally I want Sneyd to continue doing what he’s doing. Leave the running and off the cuff stuff to Kelly’s and Connor.
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| Got to be Carlos & Conor centres, Griffin on the bench.
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| Quote ="K-Diddy"Got to be Carlos & Conor centres, Griffin on the bench.'"
Personally I think that would be harsh on Griffin, but I suppose thats what the coaches get paid to do, make the big calls.
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| Carlos defence is better than griffins but Griffin really does bring the ball out well and often gets us out of trouble doing it. His error rate seems to be low too. Doubt well have all of shaul, connor Griffin, Carlos, Kelly and sneyd fit much of the time anyway so wont be an issue
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"Carlos defence is better than griffins but Griffin really does bring the ball out well and often gets us out of trouble doing it. His error rate seems to be low too. Doubt well have all of shaul, connor Griffin, Carlos, Kelly and sneyd fit much of the time anyway so wont be an issue'"
My thoughts exactly , good problem to have if all fit
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| Quote ="Mild mannered Janitor"Personally I want Sneyd to continue doing what he’s doing. Leave the running and off the cuff stuff to Kelly’s and Connor.
BIG decision to be made when Carlos if fit again. Who do you go with in the centres. Connor should never be left out. Griffin makes a lot of ground. This is where the man management skills of the coaching team will be tested.'"
aree totally with this but hey what a fantastic problem to have!
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| I also think we should switch connor, Kelly and sneyd around more when all 3 are playing. Bringing connor inside on occasion would cause defences some issues and confusion
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"I also think we should switch connor, Kelly and sneyd around more when all 3 are playing. Bringing connor inside on occasion would cause defences some issues and confusion'"
A bit left field this, how about putting Sneyd in at 9 to give Houghton a ten minute breather so allow Connor and Kelly a go in the halves?
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| I dont see a problem moving them around,especially in any match where nothings happening.
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All time club goal kicking chart
687 Joe Oliver
674 John Maloney
628 Colin Hutton
571 Danny Tickle
558 Freddie Miller
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533 Ned Rogers
524 Jim Kennedy
496 Paul Eastwood
455 Marc Sneyd
Not out of the question that Sneydy could top this chart in a couple of years time if he stays fit. He averages about 4 goals per game.'"
Not saying the HDM get their article ideas from here but
https://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/sport/r ... cs-2984673
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All time club goal kicking chart
687 Joe Oliver
674 John Maloney
628 Colin Hutton
571 Danny Tickle
558 Freddie Miller
542 Peter Bateson
533 Ned Rogers
524 Jim Kennedy
496 Paul Eastwood
455 Marc Sneyd
Not out of the question that Sneydy could top this chart in a couple of years time if he stays fit. He averages about 4 goals per game.'"
Not saying the HDM get their article ideas from here but
https://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/sport/r ... cs-2984673
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| Sneydy is our beating heart, our rudder, organiser, and the ultimate game manager. Not to mention probably the best kicker in the world out of hand or from a tee.
He will always have critics because no-one is perfect.
But what we do know is that with his present skill set he is already a great player, already a double back to back Lance Todd winner and club legend to be, if not already.
Anyone who fits the great category will do for me.
I think he's the best English scrum half in the game right now and hope England come calling for him.
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| Quote ="Uppo58"Sneydy is our beating heart, our rudder, organiser, and the ultimate game manager. Not to mention probably the best kicker in the world out of hand or from a tee.
He will always have critics because no-one is perfect.
But what we do know is that with his present skill set he is already a great player, already a double back to back Lance Todd winner and club legend to be, if not already.
Anyone who fits the great category will do for me.
I think he's the best English scrum half in the game right now and hope England come calling for him.'"
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