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| Quote ="Leigh_Manning"easy/fair/common sense/RFL - spot the odd one out!'"
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| Quote ="Hull White Star"I said that a few posts back too. Since the DDA came in most clubs have a universal policy of disabled person pays full price, carer free. It never used to be though and got confusing around the different clubs.'"
Which is understandable! It's like Kieran being an adult at most clubs yet being able to buy a young adult ticket at others!
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| Quote ="Leigh_Manning"all you did was generalise about fixed incomes.
Amyway, it's 60, wether you or I agree with it isn't going to change anything.'"
I didn't generalise about anything so I really don't understand what you mean? The reason why concessions are given to OAP's and the disabled is because they generally have no other earning potential. To means test every concession would be for every applicant to show bank accounts etc and that just isn't possible. Bumpy originally said there is a significant level of fraud to age related concessions, but I don't see how there could be because as he knows, any concession has to show proof and in fact has to show proof every ticket bought if you don't have a seasons pass. I know of at least one person who doesn't have a pass and has to show the club his concession proof every game.
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| Quote ="Hull White Star"I already answered it, its not my fault if you didn't read it, but for your benefit I'll say it again.....they state pension is £125.95 a week. Most OAP's have no other means of earning any other income, ie thats why they call it having a fixed income. I suppose you'll be having a pop at the disabled next who are in an almost identical situation
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Oh come off it. I'm not 'having a pop'. That was you, calling people 'clueless' for disagreeing with you.
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| Quote ="Hull White Star"I didn't generalise about anything so I really don't understand what you mean? The reason why concessions are given to OAP's and the disabled is because they generally have no other earning potential. To means test every concession would be for every applicant to show bank accounts etc and that just isn't possible. Bumpy originally said there is a significant level of fraud to age related concessions, but I don't see how there could be because as he knows, any concession has to show proof and in fact has to show proof every ticket bought if you don't have a seasons pass. I know of at least one person who doesn't have a pass and has to show the club his concession proof every game.'"
Indeed, gone are the days when a dad can lift his "4" year old son over the turnstile only for him to puff his little chest out and announce to the world that he wasn't 4 but 6!!!
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| Quote ="ComeOnYouUll"Oh come off it. I'm not 'having a pop'. That was you, calling people 'clueless' for disagreeing with you.'"
Nope, it was me calling Bumpy for being clueless on how concessions work and why and him saying there is significant fraud on age related concessions.
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| so, whilst not generslising, you then say that OAP's generally hsbe no other earjnimg potential?
generalisation and contradiction?
anyway, I didn't come on here to argue.
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| Quote ="Karen"Indeed, gone are the days when a dad can lift his "4" year old son over the turnstile only for him to puff his little chest out and announce to the world that he wasn't 4 but 6!!!
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Aye, I'm sure we've let plenty of those through the turnstiles in our time, nod, nod, wink, wink
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| Quote ="Leigh_Manning"so, whilst not generslising, you then say that OAP's generally hsbe no other earjnimg potential?
generalisation and contradiction?
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Erm, its the government and their agencies that calls it being on a fixed income. My Dads friend went to Hull FC until he was 97, how much earning potential other than his pension exactly did he have.
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| Quote ="Hull White Star"Erm, its the government and their agencies that calls it being on a fixed income. My Dads friend went to Hull FC until he was 97, how much earning potential other than his pension exactly did he have.'"
so, generalising based on a specific individual?
lets just leave it, we fon't agree, life would be boring if we all had the same opinions.
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| Quote ="Leigh_Manning"so, generalising based on a specific individual?
lets just leave it, we fon't agree, life would be boring if we all had the same opinions.'"
Nope, how many 80 year olds would you employ? Being on a fixed income is not a generalisation. Its about having no other earning potential, but how would you impliment clubs means testing? Isn't it easier just to have everyone on a state pension have a concession?
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| Quote ="Riderofthepalehorse"Hi everyone, I sent the lad for three tickets for the Saints cup clash, one for me 60+, one lad working twenty odd, youngest student.
I expected a concession for the student, which I got, and for me, but the girl in the Hull shop, told him Saints concessions were for 65year and up, and advised him, to pay for a full price ticket for me, as I am not 65, wondered what the policy is on ticket pricing for 60 to 65 year olds, it seems pretty petty if Saints are using this ruling.'"
You've opened a right can of worms here.
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| Quote ="WIZEB"You've opened a right can of worms here.
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Think it’s finished now, won’t mention I missed out on my bus pass, as the council changed the rules, and now I have to wait till I’m 67 for it, when my mates hop on and off gratis, the greedy old buggers.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"Where is PCollinson1990 these days?'"
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| Quote ="ccs"… I thought he'd already re-appeared this morning.
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I'm not Standee/PCollinson/Martin, wrong gender for a start
People should re read this thread. Bumpy actually said OAP's claiming a pension shouldn't get a concession not only on sports tickets but in daily living, yet students should and claimed fraud is prevelant in OAP- concessions, yet I got jumped on demanding to know why I think the over 60's and still in work should get a concession, which is not what Bumpy or I said.
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| … sorry, I wasn't referring to you, just someone who happened to have registered today and has had a lot to say.
I doubt any sporting club has the right to ask if you are employed, but asking for proof of your age is very common.
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| Quote ="ccs"…. and from someone who bought a general membership so he could get FV Live half price.'"
That's a lie for a start off, I actually put more money into the club by buying the membership than if i'd simply paid full price on the gate. The fc live was neither here nor there and available to all fans.
It's not an age concession
I don't bother with a membership I just pay full price each time.
Maybe applying your pathetic rules, oap's are deliberately getting old to get the concession
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| Quote ="Hessle Roader"I'm 76 and enjoy my concession. The fact that "you know who" doesn't like it makes it even more enjoyable. Suck it up Bumpy. You stick with your discounted membership.'"
Suck what up, I don't begrudge those getting the age concession, I just don't agree with it for the older group. Pathetic response frankly, totally ott.
Quote ="edinburgh yorkie"I have been retired 13years,and after leaving the railway,I still get my free travel travel on the trains,which enabled me to attend all the home games when I was healthier,how about that bumpy.? Suppose you will be emailing the minister of transport now,to cry your eyes out over that.'"
boo-hoo, ditto my response above.
Quote ="Armavinit"Anyone knocking concessions etc. Needs an head tap, but like de Murphy’s, I’m not bitter, unlike some.'"
I'm happy to pay full price, I voiced an opinion, it's you who sounds bitter, 'give my head a tap'
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That's a lie for a start off, I actually put more money into the club by buying the membership than if i'd simply paid full price on the gate. The fc live was neither here nor there and available to all fans.
It's not an age concession
I don't bother with a membership I just pay full price each time.
Maybe applying your pathetic rules, oap's are deliberately getting old to get the concession
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I'd better find your post then, but don't hold your breath.
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| Quote ="knockersbumpMKII"I'm happy to pay full price, I voiced an opinion, it's you who sounds bitter, 'give my head a tap'
'" I'd better find your post then, re "finding it difficult to get my membership ticket discount online", but don't hold your breath.
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| Quote ="Hull White Star"I didn't say 60, I said OAP's. And he is clueless if he doesn't realise how low the Old Age Pension is.'"
you can get by on the basic state pension, you should try it, it's not hard really.
£3/4 a game or £40/50 a year is not going to change anything, even less total outlay buying a season pass.
that's not even taking account of those with a hard earned work pension.
clearly it's not me who is hard of thinking here.
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| Quote ="ccs"I'd better find your post then, re "finding it difficult to get my membership ticket discount online".'"
yup, do have a look, I didn't buy the membership solely to get the fc live discount, not that that matters as it's not restricted to age nor is a concession. You apply the same venom to full membership holders for getting fc live half price if not, why not?
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