I was waiting for someone to come out with the "attend games" crap,I was attending games until very severe personal problems stopped me from attending games but I still watched the team on to and saw highlights,I admit highlights not a good judge...he may be strong going forward with a good offload but he is weak defenceively and reads the plays wrong,now if we are attending to this then fine but it is a concern

Think that was me, start of the season I thought it was more diamonds recently he has been great, I think his defence is improving also.

We have had a centre like him in years that can break the line and also get his winger away, only 23, getting rid of him would be madness.

Washbrook offers far more when he comes on,he is used as another pivot seeing he is a natural 13,which allows wwhicher 2nd rower starting at 13 to move to 2nd row and make us more of a threat,his defence is 2nd to none and has far more use to the team than Thompson.He will have to go some to get in the team for Wembley as barring injuries,the bench should be Bowden,Green,Frank!Washbrook.

Was you Dave and we had a good discussion about him and his defence is still a concern IMO as teams have started targeting him and that side.I hope Yeaman is talking to him in training as he was superb in defence on Friday nite

100% agree with you Jake...

Regarding Fonua, His attacking display against KR was the best centre performance,I've seen in a FC shirt for a long time, his offloads to Michaels were sensational...

Would rather see him at left centre, less defensive traffic coming his way, and IF he had Frank
outside of him, they would be a massive threat against any team...-IMO

Our rights been targeted for ages. Long before Fonua got here. And we conceded more there this season when he was out. Plus given how good yeaman is it probably influences teams to go more to the right. It's also most teams most natural attacking edge

Yes it does. there have been plenty of games when he's been out on his feet at the end of the game

chomp, knew I'd get you with that one

Dont, hes the new me with his dummy spitting

Are you guessing about the pitch size to suit your criticism of Pritchard?

It's bigger than the KC that's for sure which isn't anywhere close to being 100m, Frank has not shown any decent level of fitness all season and has hardly done any minutes, we just cannot afford a passenger against Warrington.

Based on where he is at right at this minute and what he has shown in the semi and the game before he shouldn't be anywhere near the 17. JA was dropped like a stone for being overweight/unfit and look how that has changed things.

Pritchard really is splitting the fans atm, I know people I talk to are split, tbh I can see both sides and I would have him in the 17, just like to see him run with the ball more and maybe the odd crash ball near the line, maybe its just we expect to much?

But that's the problem, he can't run more, he can't even manage what 20-25 minutes right now at any intensity/go forward.
For what we are paying him which is the most of any player by far, we as fans were expecting something akin to what he was doing in the NRL and whilst we've had a couple of glimpses it's not even close to being enough to justify his price tag, it's a massive, massive dissapointment for me so far.
So no, I don't think we are expecting too much, I wish he could get some game time in the u23s as his lack of ability to get around the field and lack of minutes is having an impact on others IMHO.
we're stuck with him for next year and I hope he improves on this but there is no way in hell I'd be offering him a third year option, the money needs to be spent more wisely elsewhere

I'm not going to elaborate but Pritchard isn't doing what I'd hoped he'd do, has been ordinary so far.

He was playing well before he went back to oz but since he got back he's barely put a couple of games together due to injury. No one can question his quality but he doesn't appear to be fit

Probably playing through his knee injury due to his status in the squad. I believe he actually hurt his knee just before he went back to Aus - I did wonder if he'd be fit enough to play in the international. His stats have been pretty good over the season and if he can keep playing consecutive games he'll improve more. Even when playing out wide I don't think our set moves used him as effectively as they might have done. He'd be on my team sheet every match - nice injection for Stevie Michaels' try and someone the opposition needs to think about.

Mine to

Wembley pitch size for football

"as lined for association football, is 115 yd (105 m) long by 75 yd (69 m) wide"

taken from [urlhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wembley_Stadium#Pitch[/url

KC pitch size for football

"Pitch Size: 114 x 78 yards"

taken from [urlhttp://www.footballgroundguide.com/leagues/england/premier-league/kc-stadium-hull-city.html[/url

The historic notion of Wembley's wide open spaces is a myth.

As for Pritchard. The opposition fear him. This is evidenced by the number of opposition player which are in the tackle to stop him. This creates gaps in the defensive line for the following play. He has recently had a 4 week lay off with an ankle injury for which I can only imagine he was unable to run / cycle therefore his fitness will have dropped.

So you came up with some 'stats' regarding soccer pitch markings, well done but incorrect, the Kcom pitch is the same width which I haven't disputed, it has to be to meet the requirements. But for rugby there is a difference as I stated, the wembley pitch will be exactly 100m from try line to try line, the rugby pitch at the Kcom isn't.
It's approx 96-97metres currently since they facked around with it, this is noticeable even just by looking at the discrepency of the 10m markings.
So yes, the new wembley pitch is bigger than our rugby marked pitch.

The old Wembley pitch was a lot wider longer than most soccer pitches of the day and they had to narrow the pitch of the new wembley for it to meet the standardised soccer pitch regs.

I'm pretty sure the pitch will be 100m long which we seem to do OK on pretty much every other week so I doubt it will tire us out too much

.... but it might tire out Warrington, or not, it all depends.

Haven't read the whole thread, but my take on Frank is that he needs to do more, he doesn't look fit and he needs to be played out wide and with pace around him.

There were no details available for RL pitch markings.

100m or 97m in length is hardly material in difference

The length of the pitch is not as much of an issue as the width, which creates more space.

Its a non-issue

Just some other tripe for him to harp on about and deflect from having his pants pulled down, once again.

Quote ="Mild mannered Janitor"There were no details available for RL pitch markings. 100m or 97m in length is hardly material in difference The length of the pitch is not as much of an issue as the width, which creates more space. Its a non-issue'" www.rflfacilitiestrust.co.uk/_up ... idance.pdf Full size RL pitch is 100mx 68m Minimum 97mx55m.......I think Cas and Wakey are in this bracket www.answers.com/Q/What_is_the_si ... h?#slide=3 The Wembley 'football pitch is 105mx67m kcomstadium.com/about-the-kc-stadium

Quote ="Mild mannered Janitor"There were no details available for RL pitch markings. 100m or 97m in length is hardly material in difference The length of the pitch is not as much of an issue as the width, which creates more space. Its a non-issue'" www.rflfacilitiestrust.co.uk/_up ... idance.pdf Full size RL pitch is 100mx 68m Minimum 97mx55m.......I think Cas and Wakey are in this bracket www.answers.com/Q/What_is_the_si ... h?#slide=3 The Wembley 'football pitch is 105mx67m kcomstadium.com/about-the-kc-stadium