Except on this occasion we've asked the kid to take a pay cut. I'd agree if we hadn't already been paying him more but we have and offering him less must feel like a kick in the balls. Personally, I think he has a good chance of making the grade and would have been worth having around

Nobody knows what's gone on as far as contracts go apart from those involved. Clearly as others have said we can't keep them all. Am sure if we had kept him.and let another go there would be some in uproar over them.

Once again we have McRae to thank for this, he gave Dean and HTW silly contracts, twice as much as the likes of Fash, Abdul etc, this is why Dean is leaving and HTW hasn't signed yet. He hasn't even played first team yet and he got his current deal it could have caused big unrest with the other young players. As it stands it's the right decision.

Watching Abdull playing for Fev now I can't see him making the grade

Are you really judging him on one game when playing in well beaten side?

Was good last year whilst playing SL, I'd rather judge him on that and the fact the Fev fans say he has been very good for them so far this year.

And how much are they on ???

Nearly 6 years since your last post, must be some kind of record.

whats that got to do with the question asked ??

If you were expecting an answer, then you could be waiting another 6 years.

Spot on Dave!

On that note I think I will leave it another 6 years to post, because nobody knows ( unless Dave did these boys contracts) that McRae gave these boys "silly money" I like facts not fiction!!!

How can any player be put on a silly contract not even played at the top level? Some fans know nothing about the game if they think this should be justified!

I don't know what amount we're talking about, all I'm saying is, if there is now a wage stucture in place it has to be adhered to.
If he really wanted to play for us, then he would've seen the bigger picture, and taken the short term pain, for the long term gain.
From what I've seen, he is clearly a good prospect, but at the moment he is too far down the pecking order to be made any kind of special offer.

If he's down the pecking order now and Moto Tony in Aus looking for another half back and been asked to take a pay cut would you stick around its a short career and if you turn down a good offer who's to say another one will be offered in a year or so

This. Plus, you either have a wage structure or you don't. If you make an exception, it's open to every player to claim they're "special".

Whether I'd stick around, would depend on my desire to play for Hull FC.
I'm not knocking him for taking a bigger offer. I'm saying that, we have a wage structure, and we have to stick to it.

People are judging him on every performance he's made in the last few months. But last night epitomises his problems. Someone of his talent who aspires to regular SL should have had much more impact on that game, losing side or not. As it was he hardly got involved at all and looked bang average.


Nope. Apart from a couple of flashes of the talent he undoubtedly possesses he was pretty average. And in a couple of matches he was poor.

Tripe. He was much better than that. Showed some real good stuff at times. As expected at that age had a couple of games were he struggled but had some real promise about him. But had some major contributions in a number of games.
Go have a watch of kr game at their place after losing pryce early. Still only 20. So I'll certainly trust my own eyes and give him benefit of the doubt. Given we're currently top with players like Bowden Green houghton naughton Sneyd yeaman n Pryce who were all e or bang average or won't make it according to many on here only a matter of months ago

Has abdul lost any weight? That's his main problem IMO. If he can lose some weight, gain some speed and improve his endurance he has a chance. if he doesn't he'll be the next scott murrell

The last few months, when have you seen him play? Have you attended any Fev or Resereve games?

The last sentence proves to me you don't watch games ( too busy moaning about the ref or listening to the radio), he did well last year, you could dig up threads with him been praised by fans and the coaching team, he has work to do, but he has great talent which he had shown already in patches in SL.

Totally agree. He has the talent to be a top player but he needs to sort his weight out.

And fitness.
Probably the reason he has gone to Fev so he gets game time and improves his match fitness level

I've watched every game we've played for the last several seasons. Many of them several times. Something you might have thought about were you not in a hurry to get personal rather than back up your argument in a rational manner.

I said he had undoubted talent (something else you seem to have missed) but I disagree with your assessment of the overall quality of his performances. His lack of fitness hampers his impact on games and his defence is poor for someone of his size. These are both things that could be worked on and improved but there is little evidence that he is doing so. Something that the coaching staff have remarked on BTW.

I could probably add something snarky now about you, just to fit in with the tone of your post above. But I can't be d TBH.

Which is what I meant by showing flashes of his undoubted talent. Apparently this was too complex a phrase for some to comprehend.

If he's as good as you say then no doubt he'll be making a huge impact in the lower leagues and he'll go on to be a great success in SL. I hope you're right. Let's see how things play out.

He made Scott Murrell look anorexic