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Quote ="WormInHand"Brady's official statement:
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Leader of Hull City Council, Councillor Stephen Brady responds to latest Airco Arena developments - 14/04/2015
Leader of Hull City Council, Councillor Stephen Brady said:
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"We are extremely sad and disappointed to learn today that the decision has been made to go ahead with the installation of a 3G pitch at the Airco Arena, despite our stated major concerns about the impact on community users and the fact that we were having ongoing and productive discussions with both the Club and the Premier League about providing an acceptable alternative facility on the nearby hockey pitches.
"Together with the City MPs, we have bent over backwards to support Hull City AFC in its bid to become a Category 2 Training Academy - including promising to expedite any planning or other permissions required to ensure they were able to meet the deadline set by the Premier League, which through our lobbying we also managed to get extended following the meeting between the Club and the Premier League Youth Development Team last Friday, as reported on Saturday. This is despite not being consulted on the Club's plans, including the impacts on the existing community users.
"To our surprise, on Monday, we received a letter from the Club in relation to the hockey pitch proposal which made certain requests of the Council which could not possibly or legally be fulfilled, these were:
a guarantee that the dome pitch would be granted planning consent (this would be a pre-determination and would be unlawful);
a contribution of £425,000 from the Council to the £850,000 cost of providing the dome facility;
the granting of business rates relief, for both the Airco Arena and the KC Stadium, for a period of 18-months (this is illegal).
"On receipt of this letter, we advised the Club immediately that we could not meet these stipulations and why. We also restated our view that there was an alternative acceptable to the Club, the Premier League and which did not impact on community users. We are aware that the Premier League deadline is not until July, by when formal planning consent could be in place.
[size=150"As owners of the KC Stadium and the Airco Arena we are now considering all of our options[/size in light of the action that has been taken by the Club today.
"In the meantime, we will continue to do everything in our power to support the existing community clubs to find alternative facilities in the City and our offer of working with the Club, the Premier League and our local MPs to provide the acceptable alternative, through the provision of a dome over the hockey pitches, remains on the table."'"
Well, as owners of the stadium and arena, lets actually see you do something about this situation. There has been a clear conflict of interests by an individual who has gone against his originally stated intentions and who is abusing his position to favour one of his companies by the use of council owned facilities. |
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Leader of Hull City Council, Councillor Stephen Brady responds to latest Airco Arena developments - 14/04/2015
Leader of Hull City Council, Councillor Stephen Brady said:
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"We are extremely sad and disappointed to learn today that the decision has been made to go ahead with the installation of a 3G pitch at the Airco Arena, despite our stated major concerns about the impact on community users and the fact that we were having ongoing and productive discussions with both the Club and the Premier League about providing an acceptable alternative facility on the nearby hockey pitches.
"Together with the City MPs, we have bent over backwards to support Hull City AFC in its bid to become a Category 2 Training Academy - including promising to expedite any planning or other permissions required to ensure they were able to meet the deadline set by the Premier League, which through our lobbying we also managed to get extended following the meeting between the Club and the Premier League Youth Development Team last Friday, as reported on Saturday. This is despite not being consulted on the Club's plans, including the impacts on the existing community users.
"To our surprise, on Monday, we received a letter from the Club in relation to the hockey pitch proposal which made certain requests of the Council which could not possibly or legally be fulfilled, these were:
a guarantee that the dome pitch would be granted planning consent (this would be a pre-determination and would be unlawful);
a contribution of £425,000 from the Council to the £850,000 cost of providing the dome facility;
the granting of business rates relief, for both the Airco Arena and the KC Stadium, for a period of 18-months (this is illegal).
"On receipt of this letter, we advised the Club immediately that we could not meet these stipulations and why. We also restated our view that there was an alternative acceptable to the Club, the Premier League and which did not impact on community users. We are aware that the Premier League deadline is not until July, by when formal planning consent could be in place.
[size=150"As owners of the KC Stadium and the Airco Arena we are now considering all of our options[/size in light of the action that has been taken by the Club today.
"In the meantime, we will continue to do everything in our power to support the existing community clubs to find alternative facilities in the City and our offer of working with the Club, the Premier League and our local MPs to provide the acceptable alternative, through the provision of a dome over the hockey pitches, remains on the table."'"
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We all know he is not a man of his word, acts like a petulant little child and now he has gonr to far imo
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| Quote ="barham red"I might be missing the point here but why do the council have to do anything to help Allam in his quest to get a category 2 training facility? He seems to be threatening (and carrying out) to change the use of a council owned facility if they don’t provide him with the means to do it elsewhere.
Isn’t this just the same as Tesco’s threatening to turn Costello into a new store if the council don’t ‘assist in’ building them one elsewhere?
I’m pretty sure there 2 rugby clubs, an ice hockey team and countless other smaller sporting enterprises that would love the same assistance and none of those take part in a sport that generates the amounts of cash the football teams do. Surely a business valued at £x00m pounds that is in private hands doesn’t need financial help of any kind.
Being a Rovers fan I always saw the whole Allam thing as a bit of an amusing side show that was fuelling your paranoia. There was no way he could throw you out realistically but it rattled the cages. Now I’m not so sure , the man thinks he can do anything and this latest escapade only strengthens that belief. I can now see FC being next on his hit list, and even as a fan of the ‘enemy’ I would back your lot over him.'"
That's a good balanced view from an outsider, I say an outsider but the stadium belongs to Hull not west Hull or the Allams.
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Being a Rovers fan I always saw the whole Allam thing as a bit of an amusing side show that was fuelling your paranoia. .'"
I don't think you would be amused IF Dr Allam recalled his £1M loan
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| Quote ="weaver93"I don't think you would be amused IF Dr Allam recalled his £1M loan
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| Quote ="Structured"As a matter of interest could you let HKR fans know exactly what is still owing on this 'loan'. I am sure one of the many experts on this board that know the internal workings of Rovers finances could help.'"
You don't need to be an expert. You can tell simply by looking at the financial statements.
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Being a Rovers fan I always saw the whole Allam thing as a bit of an amusing side show that was fuelling your paranoia. There was no way he could throw you out realistically but it rattled the cages. Now I’m not so sure , the man thinks he can do anything and this latest escapade only strengthens that belief. I can now see FC being next on his hit list, and even as a fan of the ‘enemy’ I would back your lot over him.'"
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allam is just a bully. Unfortunately he seems to me like one of these people who will live until he's about 110 which means we're stuck with his as no one will buy the club with it's current debts.
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| And the statement form the Premier League which exposes the lies the Allams have been peddling regarding the date on which the audit must take place - the PL don't set it at all, the Allams themselves request it.  
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Maybe the need to install the 3g pitch , is to receive funding as soon
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So if the Allams go ahead and start works will the council lock them out as being in breach of contract?
Should that then lead to removal of the control of the whole stadium due to yet more evidence that the SMC under the Allam's control is not fit for purpose and deliberately attempting to derail the use of community assets on top of the pretty obvious shenanigan's with regard to the financial manipulation to seize control of the assets.
One could only hope that the council once all avenues of compromise/communication have being followed start to wade into this nasty unscrupulous power crazed piece of excrement with all the might they can muster.
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| Quote ="knockersbumpMKII"So if the Allams go ahead and start works will the council lock them out as being in breach of contract?
Should that then lead to removal of the control of the whole stadium due to yet more evidence that the SMC under the Allam's control is not fit for purpose and deliberately attempting to derail the use of community assets on top of the pretty obvious shenanigan's with regard to the financial manipulation to seize control of the assets.
One could only hope that the council once all avenues of compromise/communication have being followed start to wade into this nasty unscrupulous power crazed piece of excrement with all the might they can muster.'" Don't often (ever) agree with bumpy, but on this occasion..... |
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| Quote ="ccs"Don't often (ever) agree with bumpy, but on this occasion.....'"
You and me both CCS. If you go to Not606 and look at the Hull City page, you'll find most of the posters on there think the same as us. |
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Quote ="The Dentist Wilf":1eysvan2Sorry about this but can't read that can you make it a bit bigger its important everyone reads the last line. Also a Question does anyone know where the letters came from are the letters a leak from the Council or was it the allam's that put them out, anyone know they are certainly extremely pertinent and with the FA's statement point to the football Club being run by control freaks who make the rules up to suit themselves.'" :1eysvan2
Sorry Wilf, here's a more legible version:
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The letters are all on Angus Young's Twitter, so assume they are copies that have been released to the media? They're also on the City forum Not606 which is a much more rational place since the scales fell from their eyes. One of the most balanced posters is dear old Chugger boy, banned from here when we exposed Allam for what he was 2 years ago, Lambrettaman didn't like what he read then. He's changed his mind now www.hullcityonline.co.uk/img/air ... er-1-1.jpg
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Although why they'd voluntarily publish letters that reflect themselves in such a poor light coupled with Darryl Stephenson's which are so more articulate, measured and reasonable, outlining the facts to damn the Allams, is mystifying.
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Quote ="The Dentist Wilf":1eysvan2Sorry about this but can't read that can you make it a bit bigger its important everyone reads the last line. Also a Question does anyone know where the letters came from are the letters a leak from the Council or was it the allam's that put them out, anyone know they are certainly extremely pertinent and with the FA's statement point to the football Club being run by control freaks who make the rules up to suit themselves.'" :1eysvan2
Sorry Wilf, here's a more legible version:
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The letters are all on Angus Young's Twitter, so assume they are copies that have been released to the media? They're also on the City forum Not606 which is a much more rational place since the scales fell from their eyes. One of the most balanced posters is dear old Chugger boy, banned from here when we exposed Allam for what he was 2 years ago, Lambrettaman didn't like what he read then. He's changed his mind now www.hullcityonline.co.uk/img/air ... er-1-1.jpg
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Although why they'd voluntarily publish letters that reflect themselves in such a poor light coupled with Darryl Stephenson's which are so more articulate, measured and reasonable, outlining the facts to damn the Allams, is mystifying.
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So if they undertake work to limit the use of the arena for community groups (work which the council already know has started), they will tell the premier league that city don;t meet their requirements? What about taking legal action for the breach of contract between the SMC and Hull CC? Another meaningless threat from the council meaning they'll do nothing about the fundamental issue here
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| Quote ="Structured"As a matter of interest could you let HKR fans know exactly what is still owing on this 'loan'. I am sure one of the many experts on this board that know the internal workings of Rovers finances could help.'"
based on the additional he has been funding your arrogant rabble, I would say £1,783,284. |
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Thanks everyone we now await the Councils response, Stevenson is a good Chief Executive and a good solicitor too, he tried to take a balanced view at first when the politicians first involved him but he's now seen their true colours too, judging by the last line of the Premier League statement the City people are lying through their teeth.If Allam gets away with this will we be next when we do something that doesn't fit into his plans? Incidentally Humberside reporting that there is a protest going on out side the Arena tonight!
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| Quote ="The Dentist Wilf"Sorry about this but can't read that can you make it a bit bigger its important everyone reads the last line. Also a Question does anyone know where the letters came from are the letters a leak from the Council or was it the allam's that put them out, anyone know they are certainly extremely pertinent and with the FA's statement point to the football Club being run by control freaks who make the rules up to suit themselves.'"
From Angus Young. He is the man on the inside at hcc. I would say it is a strategic leak, or an FOI request that has been efficiently dealt with. |
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Quote ="WormInHand"Sorry Wilf, here's a more legible version:
The letters are all on Angus Young's Twitter, so assume they are copies that have been released to the media? They're also on the City forum Not606 which is a much more rational place since the scales fell from their eyes. One of the most balanced posters is dear old Chugger boy, banned from here when we exposed Allam for what he was 2 years ago, Lambrettaman didn't like what he read then. He's changed his mind now
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The links to the letter appear to be to Hull City's official site, so appear kosher enough:
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Although why they'd voluntarily publish letters that reflect themselves in such a poor light coupled with Darryl Stephenson's which are so more articulate, measured and reasonable, outlining the facts to damn the Allams, is mystifying.
Megalomaniacs or in denial? Or a bit thick?'"
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The letters are all on Angus Young's Twitter, so assume they are copies that have been released to the media? They're also on the City forum Not606 which is a much more rational place since the scales fell from their eyes. One of the most balanced posters is dear old Chugger boy, banned from here when we exposed Allam for what he was 2 years ago, Lambrettaman didn't like what he read then. He's changed his mind now
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Although why they'd voluntarily publish letters that reflect themselves in such a poor light coupled with Darryl Stephenson's which are so more articulate, measured and reasonable, outlining the facts to damn the Allams, is mystifying.
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| Quote ="Mick Cranes Sidestep"That's not the official club site. They are hullcitytigers'"
Apologies - just realised that myself and have edited my post. Sorry for any misunderstanding.
Makes more sense, though, seemed surreal that the Allams would want these in the public eye. Really exposes them for what their game is - so damning the petulance and unreasonableness on the one side and the logic and reason on the other. Hope they are getting reproduced over and over on social media - do the job very nicely, no more needs to be added. |
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Ehab has pressed the self destruct button with these letters. He will complain about that I am sure, but freedom of information act will no doubt be quoted to justify their release.
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