I agree, once players start deciding they're not going to play for the coach you've had it unless the culture within that club is strong enough to squash it flat as soon as it's ugly head surfaces. That means a united coaching, physio, captaincy and ownership team who exude a zero tolerance approach towards any such murmurings, make it clear that the coach is the boss and take action against individuals that dissent. It's how you imagine the likes of Wigan, Leeds etc. operate.

If there was player dissatisfaction against Gentle, for example when Yeaman was dropped, it should have been nipped in the bud then. You would hope that Radford, as assistant, would have led that exertion of authority. If he didn't, then he has played his part in the creation of the monster. I think you're right that, as their chum, Radford thought he'd be exempt. Naivety in extremis.

It's one hell of a job to get rid of all culpable players, and you'd throw a crecheful of babies out with the bathwater. In Hull's case, this has gone on so long through the tenure of coaches since Kear. I think it has become the norm within our culture and it is this cancer that is spread to joining players. Far better for Pearson to bring in an experienced first team coach (and by that I mean experienced in the management of strong-willed men as well as all the rest of it) and make sure all the management teams surrounding him are true to his leadership. Bar none. It would probably only require the chucking out of one baby that way.

Many players will take the urine if they can get away with it. It's human nature. It'scontrolling that by transforming the management culture at the club that is key. All in my opinion.

Not all the players were /are fans or Radford either .

Which begs the question who do they want to play for?? they didn't like softly-softly Aussie Gentle, they don't like 'tough' local lad Radford. When are they going to get on with it and do the jobs they are well paid for?

i'm sure all of us have had to 'grin and bear it' with a manager they don't like at some point in their careers.

Quite. Essentially they should do as they are told. If they are doing as they are told to the best of their ability, then either they, and/or the people telling them what to do are not capable. Choosing to not do something to the best of their ability, is gross misconduct, IMO in the industry they are in.

sometimes you have to agree based on facts, I wouldn't trust Radford to soft boil an egg, we have 4 away games, and all I can see are four defeats.

I think the players as a group aren't good enough to sustain the required level in SL over a season. They played well in some games for Gentle but really cr@p in others. Same as they do for Radford. I know it's a bit simplistic and lacks the cutting edge of a good thriller but that's my take on it.

Powell's a better coach than Radford at this moment in time (and quite possibly always will be) but I'd take six or seven of his current squad over ours right now because they're more talented than our incumbents in the same positions. I'm thinking 6,7 and 9 as three of them plus a stocky winger, a class centre and a forward or two.

Which then does beg the question is it a player issue rather the Radford?

An should Radford be allowed time to bring in the players that buy into his way of doing things?

It's a difficult situation the club has failed to manage over many years.

It requires a long term plan and direction, I actually though Gentle was that person, of course the minute the wheels fell off the rumours and the knives were out, possibly from inside the dressing room too? There certainly wasn't a shortage of fans calling in for his head.

So AP did what he thought was best and installed a local lad with pride in the shirt to try and bring the squad together.

So, either Radford is a totally inept coach or the some of the players just don't buy into his methods (which is what I think) or even worse its a combination of the both in which case we are loved.

Because that would mean an total overhaul of the team and a new coach which isn't gonna happen as we cant afford it.

In the end Radford therefore will pay the price as the manager always does, and the best we can hope for is we end up with some one akin to Pulis at Crystal Palace who can extract every bit out of every player and get results using the tools at his disposal.

Either way moaning on here wont solve a thing.

But we have been stating an opinion for years, it isn't "moaning", it's just applying the same professional standards as I do at work. Radford would never get a job with me, but if he had, he'd be out the door now.

So your on silly money but can't afford to go to KC, Pinocchio.

what a load of rubbish.

The alternative is ??

Radford may not be the best coach technically but everyone was calling for someone who was akin to a real supporter and would feel the pain.

Personally I was happy with his appointment and reserve judgement for the time being. Chucking your teddy out the cot is irrelevant to most of us, but if it makes you feel better.....

It is a bit simplistic, as it fails to address that we're looking increasingly unlikely to make the play offs this year after two consecutive top 6 finishes. Gentle wasn't perfect, but he was a good deal better than Radford.

A good deal better ? Not really.

radford may turn out to be a good coach and miller and rankin may turn out to be good half backs. Can the club afford to wait around to see if any of them do? I don't think so unless pearson is happy with the risk. What we needed to do when sacking agar was appoint a coach with a track record of building a club from the depths, putting in systems and developing a winning mentality. 2 1/2 ears later and it's still what we need.

And before anyone come up with the predictable and boring question of who is this coach, I don't know, it's not my job to know but it is someone at the club's job and they're seemingly not doing so well with it

I get the distinct feeling we may hear about our 6th place finish under our last coach for the zillionth time this season.

finishes?

Plural, there you go......

And you'll be hearing about a lot more times next season if Radfords still here

Is that a promise?
Thanks.

It is a statement of fact that no one can argue with