listened on humberside to the doc who i personally like as a pundit and commentator.he said the ref penalised both teams all match and he was very consistant which is all we really want.the most telling point for me though was even radders stated we have to be smarter.when we don't dominate the collision you need to clear the ruck and allow the line defence to do their job.a few times we had a secound bite on 5th tackle which like he said is normally a kick play so better to clear ruck than conseed another set.pretty happy with performance but more happy with the fact radders knows where problems lie.doing alright for me at moment.

Need to kick on now and improve a few things.

Big 10 games coming up all winnable, 7 at home, 2 away one MM.

Penalties are one thing, but conceding try's on the sixth are really frustrating, we did it twice today.

I've got mates who've been, level headed usually properly kicking off about the ref. That aside though if smarter ourselves we could of easily won today and even last week. This is saints and wire we're talking about.
We're blatantly better in attack this year, found our defensive steel again today and yet to put a full strength team out!
Not feeling too bad about stuff to be honest!

That you said

It's no real shock, it's not often an away side gets much at all at the HJ.

Disappointing to not get the win but that's two of (on paper) the toughest games of the season out of the way in our first three. No points from either but some encouraging signs.

Carvell and Tuson will be big plusses coming back.

agree about defence.very happy to nil them 2nd half.all i wanted this season (and don't think i'm alone) was mainly a better attacking structure which includes harder running,quicker ball handling and dummy runners.pride and desire to win every game regardless of top or bottom of league is a big must as well.up to now there has been a definate improvement in most of these areas,as long as it continues the results will look after them selves

Have to say we seem to be dropping the ball a lot less. Which is nice.

I refuse to listen to blunderside and instead had radio merseyside on with Alan Rooney and Ray French. Much as I think he's past his sell by date French gave a good impartial commentary and was very complimentary about our team and Minty in particular.

Westerman seems to be doing a great job at 13 all we need now is a 6 & 7 to perform

cannot understand Rdfords reason for not using Heremia and Whiting sooner

Sounds like radford made a blob leaving heremaia on the bench for so long. Can't understand it myself as it's blatantly obvious we're miles better with him on the park. Sounded like ranking offered little but will be interested in the appraisal of those who went.

2 tough games out of the way but 2 games we go 3 points in last season

Do you mean Houghton?

Impressed at how competitive you guys are and you have something to build on,us however sigh

Very encouraging performance. I rarely reference the referee, but Child had two laughable stints on Hull's line today. I thought there was an obstruction in the play before Shaul's (deserved) sin-binning which would have meant us getting a penalty on Wire's 10, as opposed to going a man down. I'd like to see the "knock on" from Talanoa too. He fumbled it backwards but from what I could see there was no separation for the supposed knock on.

Our intensity in defence was great overall today, pretty obviously seeing that we nilled them in the second half despite being hammered for penalties and possession. The players looked switched on and pumped up in the warm-up. Houghton and Ellis in particular were immense in effort, one set Houghton made 5 tackles. Paea and Bowden both led from the front, Westerman looks in very good shape. Feka made little impact though.

On the halves, Rankin was disappointing today, think they scored off a penalty he conceded, not involved enough. Azza looked very lively, always looked a threat. Our attack looks transformed from last year, we seem to have a structure and organisation, and looked to spread the ball much more. Didn't always come off, but way more entertaining than last year.

Our discipline though is absolutely killing us. In both the last 2 matches we've been in the game, absolutely, but gifted quality opposition way too much ball and been appropriately punished. Can't go on if we're to have a good season. Got to take 4 points from the next couple of games. With Carvell and Tuson back, hopefully, Friday is a "must win".

The reason he seems impartial, and was complimentary to Hull is because him and his sidekick are from Sintellins, and hate Warrington.
The pair of doddering demented fools need putting out of their misery.

Sounds familiar.

Yes.

Not a fan of talking about the ref but Child was terrible. Anytime Ratchford, MM or Myler put there hands up they got a penalty. So many poor decisions, England was aloud to be treated on the pitch with a bust nose whereas Horne had to leave and nearly punished. Both teams was laying on for the full game yet Hull was the only team that kept getting penalized. He simply lost the plot.

Westerman, Paea and Heremaia Hulls stand outs for me. Horne and Rankin struggled again, for next week id go with Heremaia starting at 6. Not sure why Whiting didnt come on till 60-65mins. Crookes and Lineham looked dangerous with ball in hand.

Time for Miller to get a chance?

For next week i'd start Azza and Horne with possibly Miller on the bench. Azza moving to 9 when Miller comes on.

Thought you contested throughout & your players gave 100%. Your fans were very good as well, gave your team a good ovation at the end of the game.

Rarely i will call the ref but he was awful today and cost us a win. I would also mention that the sub policy from radders could be questioned. Overall though i am pleasantly surprised this season.

can not disagree with this only to add when Horney got sent to the side lines by Childs for having blood on his face then not even affording us the opportunity to bring a replacement on for the full set of 6 we then had to defend on our line was to me as near to cheating to give the other team an unfair advantage as I have ever witnessed childs was a disgrace today we never got anything from the guy in there red zone, I am very proud of the way we preformed today against all the odds I thought we honestly deserved the win but I am very Boyed by the performance and effort we will win plenty this year with effort like this well done Fc today

Total double standards, separately he let their player be treated on the pitch and delayed the scrum until he was ready.