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| Quote ="V6Chuk"I wonder who should get the job in 2015 when Radford gets 'sacked'?'"
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| Quote ="Wilde 3"What??'"
we have a number of young players on decent contracts who weren't interested in going against Gentle they were basically reminded that they were on long contracts and things could be easy for them or hard depending on how they played..
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| Quote ="jacko1"we have a number of young players on decent contracts who weren't interested in going against Gentle they were basically reminded that they were on long contracts and things could be easy for them or hard depending on how they played..'"
I honestly don't know what your getting at?
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| Quote ="Sheldon"I honestly don't know what your getting at?'"
Only repeating what I was told..
If your not happy with me saying this delete it...
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| Quote ="jacko1"Only repeating what I was told..'"
I'm not knocking you bud, I just can't grasp what you're trying to say.
Are you saying that the young players were threatened by the older players or by staff?
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| Quote ="Sheldon"I'm not knocking you bud, I just can't grasp what you're trying to say.
Are you saying that the young players were threatened by the older players or by staff?'"
Was just going to ask the same question. So a clique of senior players have been intimidating the younger players, so that Gentle gets the chop. Fail to believe it can be that organised, but I stand to be corrected.
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| Quote ="Sheldon"I'm not knocking you bud, I just can't grasp what you're trying to say.
Are you saying that the young players were threatened by the older players or by staff?'"
By both.
Put it like this if and the way things are looking Radford is going to be named as coach Doubt i'll be going to any games..
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| If that is the case then that is absolutely disgusting. It is the senior players that have let the side down at times this season!
People like Shaul, Lineham, Crooks, Green, Cunningham, J.Turgat, Hadley will be the core of this club in the next few years, maybe they should have told AP what was going on.....if this is true
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| Quote ="The Dentist Wilf"Top bloke who on balance probably had to go, but we'll only know next year at this time if its the right call. I like the way he went about his business but obviously some of the players didn't!'"
Exact sentiment, good luck to him and his family. As for the mutiny, who led it ? if it was Radford then AP should have seen it or at least been informed by McRea. And if it was a player that can only be the leader on the pitch as I can't see having a different gobby get leading in the changing room. Very bad situation if Radford has been the cause of all this, he shoul go also.
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| Quote ="jacko1"By both.
Put it like this if and the way things are looking Radford is going to be named as coach Doubt i'll be going to any games..'"
So going on the rumors of who Radford was drinking with at the weekend we can quite easily work out the main culprits.
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| Quote ="easthullwesty"Do people honestly believe that there has been some sort of coup? or that Radford would seriously tell someone some time ago that he had got the nod? I just don't buy conspiracy theories.'"
I don't know whether to laugh or cry at the amount of garbage spouted on here that within 3 pages and 2 threads becomes absolute gospel and a concrete basis for people to form definite and immoveable opinions from.
I have no idea whether this 'Club Hull' approach will work or not. I have no idea whether Radford was this weekend in Blackpool, down Prinny Ave, in secret talks with shadowy faction leaders from the playing squad or already mapping out some moves off the long right to left cut out pass with Cookie. What I would say is that Pearson if anything has taken a bolder and possibly more difficult decision to go down this new route than perhaps flying in another Aussie coach for two years of 'more of the same'. There is no doubt that appointing Radford is a far bigger gamble in my view but at the end of the day it's Pearson's gamble to take. Pearson has spent time with the squad in training, away at games, in France etc. and will have seen how the dynamics work. He will also have been wondering sat at Huddersfield exactly how much two years of 'advice' from two Aussies in McRae and Gentle had actually furthered the club since he took over.
So for me, could work, might not. It's the owner's call and £3.5 million earns him the right to make it. I hope it produces the best environment for our upcoming new breed to work in - they will certainly have the best facilities ever to do that. I hope everyone supports the gamble - which is what it is in my view - so that it has it's best chance of success. If it fails then we have to hope that at best Pearson is prepared to go back to the drawing board again. If he doesn't want to do that again, or if the support collapses, then the drawing board might be one of the few assets available to sell. I just hope the support doesn't collapse on the basis of unfounded rumour and general garbage being pedalled around as 'nailed on' truth.
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| Quote ="FCFaithful Stu"So going on the rumors of who Radford was drinking with at the weekend we can quite easily work out the main culprits.'"
DJ, Tickle, Miller and O'Meley.
2 of them were going to be leaving anyway, and one only came in June!
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| Quote ="V6Chuk"I wonder who should get the job in 2015 when Radford goes to rovers for a couple of quid more?
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| Quote ="jacko1"we have a number of young players on decent contracts who weren't interested in going against Gentle they were basically reminded that they were on long contracts and things could be easy for them or hard depending on how they played..'"
So then why have the young players been our best performers this season? The intimidation you speak of obviously hasn't worked. Either that or its just made up. If they wanted Gentle out that bad why did they play well enough to get to Wembley?
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| Gentle by all accounts is a nice guy, but head coach he ain't! Pearson was sold a pup by Howes. Rovers were never in for Gentle but this rumour led Pearson to give Gentle a contract.
Personally I think Radford could do a job for you guys.
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| Quote ="Wilde 3"DJ, Tickle, Miller and O'Meley.
2 of them were going to be leaving anyway, and one only came in June!'"
True, but what is to stop them help their drinking buddy get the top job.
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| Quote ="jacko1"By both.
Put it like this if and the way things are looking Radford is going to be named as coach Doubt i'll be going to any games..'"
I think you've mentioned a young player you know before so I won't quiz you to much.
Were it doesn't make sense is Ellis' role, if he had any. He's worked with Gentle for 4 years now and I'm presuming has more influence with the youngsters than some of the barely literate players we have.
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| Quote ="thehullwhitestar"
Is this a dig at Radford leaving Hull for Bradford were he won a lot more then if he'd stayed? If so pretty stupid remark Imo.
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| Quote ="Staffs FC"Quote ="easthullwesty"Do people honestly believe that there has been some sort of coup? or that Radford would seriously tell someone some time ago that he had got the nod? I just don't buy conspiracy theories.'"
I don't know whether to laugh or cry at the amount of garbage spouted on here that within 3 pages and 2 threads becomes absolute gospel and a concrete basis for people to form definite and immoveable opinions from.
I have no idea whether this 'Club Hull' approach will work or not. I have no idea whether Radford was this weekend in Blackpool, down Prinny Ave, in secret talks with shadowy faction leaders from the playing squad or already mapping out some moves off the long right to left cut out pass with Cookie. What I would say is that Pearson if anything has taken a bolder and possibly more difficult decision to go down this new route than perhaps flying in another Aussie coach for two years of 'more of the same'. There is no doubt that appointing Radford is a far bigger gamble in my view but at the end of the day it's Pearson's gamble to take. Pearson has spent time with the squad in training, away at games, in France etc. and will have seen how the dynamics work. He will also have been wondering sat at Huddersfield exactly how much two years of 'advice' from two Aussies in McRae and Gentle had actually furthered the club since he took over.
So for me, could work, might not. It's the owner's call and £3.5 million earns him the right to make it. I hope it produces the best environment for our upcoming new breed to work in - they will certainly have the best facilities ever to do that. I hope everyone supports the gamble - which is what it is in my view - so that it has it's best chance of success. If it fails then we have to hope that at best Pearson is prepared to go back to the drawing board again. If he doesn't want to do that again, or if the support collapses, then the drawing board might be one of the few assets available to sell. I just hope the support doesn't collapse on the basis of unfounded rumour and general garbage being pedalled around as 'nailed on' truth.'"
I'm willing to give the new coaching set up a chance, but don't see why I should give them long.
I expect to see in an instant improvement , maybe not in terms of results, but definitely in terms of attitude/committment/effort/pride/passion.
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| Quote ="K-Diddy"
The way he left wasn't great, although Radders has tried to explain it.
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| Just to add flame to the fire I heard earlier this season that Radford had approached Rovers for the position of coach if Sandercock was to leave. And once again from a very very good source of information. He also was reported to have indicated Gentle was the worst coach he had been involved with. So much for being a loyal member of staff at KC. But once again only hearsay.
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| Quote ="easthull4"Just to add flame to the fire I heard earlier this season that Radford had approached Rovers for the position of coach if Sandercock was to leave. And once again from a very very good source of information. He also was reported to have indicated Gentle was the worst coach he had been involved with. So much for being a loyal member of staff at KC. But once again only hearsay.'"
Well the view of Gentle would be backed up by the rumors of what Andy Hay thought of Gentle and why he was asked to leave.
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| I feel sorry for PG as he seems like a genuinely nice guy but two years after his very much welcomed appointment, we are a shambles. His recruitment was baffling to say the least and our performances were, on the whole, as bad as when Fubar was in charge.
However, if AP thinks that giving the job to a very limited ex-player who's only loyalties are to himself and the dobbins, then he is badly mistaken. How long before he's threatening to move to his beloved club for a couple of quid (again)?
I don't even want to think about having that other ex-player back at my club in any capacity whatsoever. I won't be renewing my pass and I'm pretty sure that the "Cooke factor" will ensure that many other fans won't either.
I'm very grateful for what AP has done for my club but I feel like he needs to give his head a bang.
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| No matter what you think of the coach, the staff are there to support him TOTALLY. I hope they did that but human ambition is a terrible thing sometimes.
If they didn't support and help him then shame on them, sometimes you should be careful what you wish for.
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| Quote ="Wilde 3"DJ, Tickle, Miller and O'Meley.
2 of them were going to be leaving anyway, and one only came in June!'"
And that's where the story got really far fetched. Miller who'd worked with Gentle before, walked out on a contract with an NRL team to work with Gentle again, said he was coming here primarily because of Gentle and even lived in Gentle's house when he arrived.
Hmmmm, not convinced.
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