[url=http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/rugby-league/18437695not just 90k PAYE, £250k VAT from selling the stadium[/url seems the management at Odslum are to corporate governance what Phill Clrke is to unbiased commentary.

I hope Bradford get sorted out, for there fans, IMO they don't deserve some of these bitter comments,

Nor do we deserve to be classed as hooligans yet most clubs supporters do this.

bolloks, they are an arrogant bunch, slightly beind L**ds

I don't get this love in for Bratfut

I left the idea that two wrongs make a right in the school playground TBH.

What every Bradford fan is arrogant?

Give over, the only one on here coming over as arrogant is you.

Now where did I say they did????

Fair enough, Bradford and its fans deserve to suffer because Hull fans are hooligans, makes sense. It must be Bradfords fault that us Rovers fans were accused of painting cars at Cas too.

At the end of the day Bradfords future or demise has no bearing on us whatsoever. In fact we may only benefit from it with a couple of players signed up. Bradford bring as many fans as all other teams to us so it is not going to affect us at all.

Sad for their fans, of course it is, but I doubt a single one of them was worried or upset in the slightest when we were on the verge of extinction. Those same fans a lot of you are upset for were quite happy that their board stole Harris from Leeds and started the rollercoaster in financial oblivion. Like they say "you reap what you sow" and Bradford are now getting the backlash for overspending on the cap numerous times and over extending themselves.

Again were did I say that??? I was pointing out that life aint fair and the fans are always the one who bear the brunt of anything that happens to clubs.

Like Standee I cannot understand this Bradford love fest that seems to be going.

In addition to busting you down to division 3, they should sell odswill and turn it into a landfill site, tear up teh contracts of all players and delete any trophy wins you've had in the SL era from the history books for breaching the salary cap

I feel sorry for the fans of Bradford, they've dug deep (as have others) to save there club, only to find out its not enough.

I have no bitterness towards Bradford fans at all. None. I would imagine that if I'd been born in Bradford, into a Bradford Northern-mad family I would have grown up a Bradford fan. That's how it generally works.
And I don't think we've exactly got the moral high ground when it comes to having past owners who behaved ethically (Lloyd?, Hetherington?).
The rules are the rules, and they will be rightly punished. But the sport can't afford to lose one of the few teams that can pull in big support

Anyone with a ounce of sense knew it was never going to be enough. Those that did contribute have been led up the garden path by those running the club.

You didn't. I was responding to the idea raised not intimating that you shared it.

And on your other point regarding a 'Bradford love fest' I'm not seeing that at all. Not wanting an RL club to go out of business is hardly a 'love fest' and neither is challenging posters who are actively wanting them to vanish. I didn't, for instance, contribute to the bail-out collection and neither would I expect the RFL to show any special favours. That doesn't mean that I can't wish them well in their efforts to save [ithemselves[/i.

Yup. But sport is all about emotion and rarely logical, so you can't blame folk for putting heart before head.

Their matchday marketing and Bullmania may have been a little over the top but your comments are harsh. Whatever they did worked, their attendances were regularly around 15,000 at their peak.

The Robbie Hunter-Paul remark is pathetic.

ATEOD they aint Bratfud fans, 15 years ago they were all at Keighley

Think you'll find the majority of those fans don't go any more, hence their current crowd numbers. The problem is I don't see a sudden spike in crowds at Keighley (to use your example) so those fans might well be lost to the game as a whole.

It just so happened Bullmania coincided with the most successful period of Bradford bulls/Northern existence so attendances would have improved dramatically regardless of the marketing. The marketing will have helped but the last few season have shown that those pulled in by the success were starting to fall off. It happens at all clubs including our own, when at our peak in the 80's we were drawing in good crowds, but as the 80's moved into the 90's a huge chunk of those supporters disappeared and it took a long long time to entice them back.
Even in recent times on the back of poor seasons our support has taken a downward spiral and we are finding it hard to entice supporters to come back. Success will always be the biggest factor in improving crowds.

you think I give a toss what you think?

Probably yes, you did take the time to respond after all.