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| Quote ="PAUL M"Think that will be the case with most of our recruitment. Names likes Watts, Crookes, Lovegrove, Elima, Kearney, Holdsworth are good but not outstanding.'"
Has Kearney got enough pace now?
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| Has Horne?
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| A slower full back can make up for a lack of pace with clever positioning. I don't think Kearney's that great defensively, but he looks ok in attack.
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| Quote ="A unknown superstar"Has Horne?'"
Probably not, but don't see the point in bringing in someone equally as slow.
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| Quote ="yello-belly"Quote ="A unknown superstar"Has Horne?'"
Probably not, but don't see the point in bringing in someone equally as slow.'"
Not even if they're likely to play more games? Horne can't be relied on as a first choice.
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| Ideally I wouldn't want either as our first choice fullback. We'll just have to wait until 2014 and sign Greg Eden. I heard his aunt Maurine is from Hull and he used to stay with her down Hessle road. He has apparently been telling friends it's an ambition of his to play for us one day
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| Quote ="yello-belly"Probably not, but don't see the point in bringing in someone equally as slow.'"
At least he's a specialist full back. We originally tried to get him when wade left.
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| Quote ="A unknown superstar"This.
Tomkins is a great player but he isn't a patch on Slater at the minute. Nor is he as good as the likes of Brett Stewart or Darius Boyd. Tomkins can do things them 3 can't do but overall as a fullback he has abit to go to be up there with the likes of them imo.'"
you have got to be ting me darius boyd jesus christ now you are really going along the lines of if they play in the nrl they must be better! tomkins with a few more years will be on level with slater they both are shakey under a high ball with pressure applied, slater is probably quicker but sam is trickier to tackle, both scare teams when they start to run and i would say sam has better hands but slater has been at the top alot longer.
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| Quote ="A unknown superstar"Ideally I wouldn't want either as our first choice fullback. We'll just have to wait until 2014 and sign Greg Eden. I heard his aunt Maurine is from Hull and he used to stay with her down Hessle road. He has apparently been telling friends it's an ambition of his to play for us one day
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I heard that. He bloody loves that chippy in Queen Victoria Square, an' all.
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| Quote ="Rock God X"Not even if they're likely to play more games? Horne can't be relied on as a first choice.'"
I agree there 's a need to bring someone in. Would like to see a bit of pace added to the side at 1 or 6, but don't see it with Holdsworth & Kearney.
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| Quote ="dubairl"you have got to be ting me darius boyd jesus christ now you are really going along the lines of if they play in the nrl they must be better! tomkins with a few more years will be on level with slater they both are shakey under a high ball with pressure applied, slater is probably quicker but sam is trickier to tackle, both scare teams when they start to run and i would say sam has better hands but slater has been at the top alot longer.'"
You're really doubting the quality of Darius Boyd, Really?
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| Quote ="yello-belly"I agree there 's a need to bring someone in. Would like to see a bit of pace added to the side at 1 or 6, but don't see it with Holdsworth & Kearney.'"
Whatever their strengths pace isn't one of em.
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| Quote ="A unknown superstar"You're really doubting the quality of Darius Boyd, Really?
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have you watched a single newcastle knights game this season? or even a manly game?
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| Quote ="yello-belly"Quote ="Rock God X"Not even if they're likely to play more games? Horne can't be relied on as a first choice.'"
I agree there 's a need to bring someone in. Would like to see a bit of pace added to the side at 1 or 6, but don't see it with Holdsworth & Kearney.'"
Lack of pace is a bit of a worry, I suppose. Will there be a new winger next year? How quick is Arundel? Crooks looks nippy and Briscoe is fast, but other than that we're not exactly blessed.
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| Would be completely underwhelmed if our supposed top quality signings for next year are crookes, arundell, kearney and holdsworth.
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| Quote ="Rock God X"Lack of pace is a bit of a worry, I suppose. Will there be a new winger next year? How quick is Arundel? Crooks looks nippy and Briscoe is fast, but other than that we're not exactly blessed.'"
I tend to agree with Yello belly , The lack of any pace is a worry . Other than Sharp and Turner (who are rumoured to be off ) I don't really see anyone within the side to frighten any defence.
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| We've not replaced Shaun Briscoe yet. He showed the value of a fit, specialist full back, safe under the bomb, brave defence, always pushing into the line. I think Kearney sounds the best option of those being mentioned.
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| Quote ="B0NES"Quote ="Rock God X"Lack of pace is a bit of a worry, I suppose. Will there be a new winger next year? How quick is Arundel? Crooks looks nippy and Briscoe is fast, but other than that we're not exactly blessed.'"
I tend to agree with Yello belly , The lack of any pace is a worry . Other than Sharp and Turner (who are rumoured to be off ) I don't really see anyone within the side to frighten any defence.'"
Briscoe has the combination of pace and strength to go the distance, but there's no one else with the pace to score a length of the field try. Don't think Sharp is that quick, either.
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| Quote ="Rock God X"Briscoe has the combination of pace and strength to go the distance, but there's no one else with the pace to score a length of the field try. Don't think Sharp is that quick, either.'"
I forgot about Briscoe..
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| Quote ="B0NES"Quote ="Rock God X"Briscoe has the combination of pace and strength to go the distance, but there's no one else with the pace to score a length of the field try. Don't think Sharp is that quick, either.'"
I forgot about Briscoe..'"
A look at the post of mine that you quoted would have reminded you!
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"Would be completely underwhelmed if our supposed top quality signings for next year are crookes, arundell, kearney and holdsworth.'"
Don't think we're gonna make any top class signings tbh. Ellis apart.
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| For mine,I wouldnt renew Russell's loan.
Play Horne at FB for the rest of the season, lets start building for next season.
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| Quote ="PAUL M"Don't think we're gonna make any top class signings tbh. Ellis apart.'"
I listened to Shaun Wane's interview, said his young players, cant wait to get to training, and are hell bent trying to improve.
Think, we need an influx of young players with the same attitude.
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| Quote ="PAUL M"Don't think we're gonna make any top class signings tbh. Ellis apart.'"
Flies in the face of what gentle has been saying we need.
Add in those players plus a decent prop and probably a lesser one and we really haven't gone forward at all in replacing mckinnon, turner, sharp, manu, o'meley and moa
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"Would be completely underwhelmed if our supposed top quality signings for next year are crookes, arundell, kearney and holdsworth.'"
Agree Jake.
AP stated he wanted us, to be challenging for honours, the above pivots,Kearney and Holdsworth
wont achieve that - imo. -Also if AP wants to attract 15k crowds, he needs to get out his cheque book and sign players who will put bums on seats, ie Rangi Chase - not Brett Kearney and/or Daniel Holdsworth.
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