well, I've just read the Wigan board on the subject and they seem, in the main, disappointed he is leaving, I guess it depends what our other options were, another year (or more) of Dowes?

If we sign Lynch then O'Carrol will be 5th in the pecking order, at 25 and learning from O'Meley I'm fairly confident he'll be a good addition.

No worries we'll put him in the 2nd row

Not big enough IMO.

Bowden has much more potential.

Based on what ?

Presumably on the reverse side of the "knowledge" that everyone slagging O'Carroll off have been basing their opinions on.

Please show me a post which any-one slags him off ?

Absolutely, Dowes has had his day for me and won't be retained. O'Carrol is young with SL experience at the most successful club in Rugby League.

based on how he was playing before his injury, [iwhat he is capable of[/i, what are you basing your low opinion of him on, having had a complex injury that took a lot of exploration and diagnosis? (which has now been successfully treated and he's had more than enough recovery time, at the age of 24, on a 3 year deal which will be weighted correctly to appearances and form (we hope), coming in to learn from O'Meley for at least a season, to play 5th choice.)

Yes, you're right, we should just have given Dowes another two years.

He's not Dowes

maybe not "slagging him off" but a negative to Standee's positive.

Even you were "not impressed".

Again not a slagging, but unnecessarily negative when the kid's only just signed.

I have not posted any where on this board that I have a low opinion of him!....I have posted that it is a risk to sign a player who has been sidelined for near on 2 yrs...
FC must think he is good to offer 3 yrs, yet he cannot even break into the Wigan team unless there is an injury and he is one of their own!

When do people quite get that there isn't an unlimited amount of top-class talent out there, kicking the KC doors down, begging for us to let them in?

Why should I be impressed ?

OK, give us a list of who would impress you. Mind you, they'd also need to be available and affordable, so shouldn't be too long

So are you talking now about his personal qualities? Half seven was his rugby ability, but you think he's a nice guy?

Maybe read the Wigan board and see what fans who have sen him play and know him say about him.

If he can have more luck with injuries he will be a good signing, looked a very good player a couple of years ago.

indeed, he "cannot even break into the Wigan team", you know, the Wigan team that bossed the CC Final in the end, the Wigan team that are still in the battle to finish top of the pile, the Wigan team that are still many people's favourite's for the Grand Final, THAT Wigan team?

Sounds like a fella called Sean Long they had playing for them. Not sure what happened to him.

No one has said you have to be - I was pointing out, in response to your comment, that you'd been negative about the signing.

Fine, you aren't impressed by this signing. We get it

Good signing ,young british prop highly rated ,im sure his injuries are behind him ,and who else is there we couldnt find a replacement for dowes last year ,wel done fc

That's the one...the one who have forwards out of contract, leaving and near the end of their career.

It doesn't matter who we sign some people would put a negative spin on it, Although most seem to go very quiet when the question of who should we be signing is asked.

I am not impressed we have signed him for 3 yrs when he has yet to prove a consistent season in SL, I have not made one comment about his abilities....which bit of that do you fail to understand ?

indeed, and do you know for a fact that Wigan didn't try and keep O'Carroll? I'll answer, NO, you don't.

maybe, just maybe, he thinks a move to pastures new will freshen him up, maybe, just maybe, we offered him a better contract over the term?

I would imagine most other SL clubs would have been interested, but it doesn't matter, maybe AP/JR should run all the signings past you, check that you're impressed first, obviously you know so much more about the game than almost anyone else posting on here this morning.

So your comments about him not being able to break into the Wigan team aren't meant to be a reflection on his abilities?



BTW - are we still applying the rule that unless you've seen a player playing week in and week out your opinion doesn't count?