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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"If ever there was a game for lauaki to show us what he can do it was today and he failed miserably.
I reckon we've had about 30 minutes of top notch play from him since he arrived 2 years ago'"
Jon Sharp signed him.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"Jon Sharp signed him.
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IIRC, sharp wanted to sign him when he was at hudds but agar had already done the deal when sharp arrived
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"If ever there was a game for lauaki to show us what he can do it was today and he failed miserably.
I reckon we've had about 30 minutes of top notch play from him since he arrived 2 years ago'"
I think I preferred him when he was a liability and he frequently lost his head!
I'd probably be less critical if he was non quota but I can only assume he's in big money, probably double what Sam Moa is on, so I judge him accordingly.
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"IIRC, sharp wanted to sign him when he was at hudds but agar had already done the deal when sharp arrived'"
I don't think so. Sharp signed for Hull in August 2008 and Lauaki signed Feb 2009
"Hull's football operations manager Jon Sharp had first tried to sign Lauaki while at Huddersfield, so he was delighted to finally have completed the deal.
Sharp said: "I was desperate to sign him and I chased him for two years. He will be a tremendous asset and he will kill it here."
So we shouldn't really judge Agar until he's got his team in place.
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| only FC fans could find something to whine about after beating the opposition by a cricket score
also with regards Hame, he had a very good game and his VT stats prove it, the team and coaches value him highly ...
just enjoy the moment ... there is nothing to whine about absolutely nothing
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"agenda? Don't talk shiite. He was probably our worst forward if you take out the 2 youngsters. Even dowes was more impactful'"
The agenda part wasn't particularly aimed at you but I'm sick of the numpties around me complaining everytime he gets the ball and saying the same things no matter how he actually plays.
I thought he had a decent game today, was a handfull, had a few offloads, bounced off some tackles and even put out a great pass to put the winger away. I'd be interested to see if the stats back up your thoughts on Dowes and I'd also add that he did far more minutes today than he normally does which did effect how he played.
The way he is used means he isn't worth a quota spot though I agree.
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| Today proved to me that despite their very best efforts Lauaki and Washbrook are simply not up to SL level. Washbrook was doing everything he could to impress but our play just slowed or stopped when it went through him. Hame , well he should have been busting Oldham at will but rarely made any real forward progress. His decision making was poor though ironically he did put in a couple of nice passes.
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| Quote ="ChrisH"Today proved to me that despite their very best efforts Lauaki and Washbrook are simply not up to SL level. Washbrook was doing everything he could to impress but our play just slowed or stopped when it went through him. Hame , well he should have been busting Oldham at will but rarely made any real forward progress. His decision making was poor though ironically he did put in a couple of nice passes.'"
genuinely dont understand where the irony is?do you mean hes but he looked good today?in which case is this not the time to give him a break?...or do you mean he makes decisions and throws a pass normally but threw a 'couple of good ones today'?which i doubt as he seems to have a generally above average pass relative to other forwards in super league.still dont get where the irony is though..good post though ; )
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"I don't think so. Sharp signed for Hull in August 2008 and Lauaki signed Feb 2009
"Hull's football operations manager Jon Sharp had first tried to sign Lauaki while at Huddersfield, so he was delighted to finally have completed the deal.
Sharp said: "I was desperate to sign him and I chased him for two years. He will be a tremendous asset and he will kill it here."
So we shouldn't really judge Agar until he's got his team in place.
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2042 I believe
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| Quote ="getemonside"genuinely dont understand where the irony is?do you mean hes poop but he looked good today?in which case is this not the time to give him a break?...or do you mean he makes poop decisions and throws a poop pass normally but threw a 'couple of good ones today'?which i doubt as he seems to have a generally above average pass relative to other forwards in super league.still dont get where the irony is though..good post though ; )'"
Simple really. I'm criticising him in this post because I think that he isn't good enough. The Oldham game to me was overall proof of that but I had to admit that he did show a glimpse of threequarter like skill with a couple of passes. It may be that he can do it the problem is he doesn't. On one occasion yesterday he received the ball about 10m from their line one on one with their centre/second row. He chose to pass to Lynn(?) when he should have just blasted over. From the ptb now on the last tackle he chose to run into a bunch of defenders , handover. He's a luxury we can't afford.
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| Quote ="ChrisH"Today proved to me that despite their very best efforts Lauaki and Washbrook are simply not up to SL level. Washbrook was doing everything he could to impress but our play just slowed or stopped when it went through him. Hame , well he should have been busting Oldham at will but rarely made any real forward progress. His decision making was poor though ironically he did put in a couple of nice passes.'"
Think your being a little unfair to both players there. Lauaki was skittling defenders left right and centre, not always ending in something positive but still busting tackles. He just needs to learn to either get to the ground for a quick play the ball or keep his forward progress going. Thought Washbrook did try hard to impress like u say, and did well at 13. Found a fair few offloads and got his hands on the ball. Still has alot too work on to be a hooker though, passing from the floor seemed alot slower than Houghtons and he took wrong options.
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| Quote ="ChrisH"Simple really. I'm criticising him in this post because I think that he isn't good enough. The Oldham game to me was overall proof of that but I had to admit that he did show a glimpse of threequarter like skill with a couple of passes. It may be that he can do it the problem is he doesn't. On one occasion yesterday he received the ball about 10m from their line one on one with their centre/second row. He chose to pass to Lynn(?) when he should have just blasted over. From the ptb now on the last tackle he chose to run into a bunch of defenders , handover. He's a luxury we can't afford.'"
give him time... cor, some people are so impatient.
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| Quote ="ICECREAMMAN"only FC fans could find something to whine about after beating the opposition by a cricket score
also with regards Hame, he had a very good game and his VT stats prove it, the team and coaches value him highly ...
just enjoy the moment ... there is nothing to whine about absolutely nothing'"
I think most fans are pretty happy with yesterday's result, nice 82 points, kept them to zero and scored some nice tries. Oh and we came through with no injuries!! Good effort from the lads and looking forward to team selection next week, a few headaches for RA me thinks!
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| whens the draw for the next round?
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| Quote ="hull2524"whens the draw for the next round?'"
5pm today, we're away at Leeds
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| York away would be nice
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| Quote ="Standee"5pm today, we're away at WIGAN
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| Quote ="EXILEDHULLADGATESHEAD"curtain.gif'"
We'll be away to someone big, things are going a bit to well for us at the moment!!!
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| Quote ="Standee"We'll be away [to someone big, things are going a bit to well for us at the moment!!!'"
Rovers it is then.
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| Quote ="Hutchie"York away would be nice'"
York at home would be smashing
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| Quote ="shauney"York at home would be smashing
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The return of Chris Thorman! Haha
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| dewsbury or swinton
london skolars or widnes
featherstone
with only three teams outside superleague making int through to round 5, the chances of drawing 1 of the above seem pretty low
so, anyone at home will do
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| Quote ="Hutchie"York away would be nice'"
As someone said yesterday, York v anyone anywhere in the next round would be nice.
Regards Lauaki, he tried too much fancy footwork for me and it didn't pay off. Not sure I agree with the "scattering defenders" claims either. The first real telling input into the game from him was the tryscoring pass he gave out in the last minute. He kept the Oldham defence busy at times but they never looked overly troubled by him. If he ran as hard as Sam Moa, he'd be a legend.
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| Quote ="old frightful"As someone said yesterday, York v anyone anywhere in the next round would be nice.
Regards Lauaki, he tried too much fancy footwork for me and it didn't pay off. Not sure I agree with the "scattering defenders" claims either. The first real telling input into the game from him was the tryscoring pass he gave out in the last minute. He kept the Oldham defence busy at times but they never looked overly troubled by him. If he ran as hard as Sam Moa, he'd be a legend.'"
Good summation of lauaki's input. Nowhere near good enough for the salary we're paying him and the quota spot
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| Quote ="Standee"5pm today, we're away at Leeds
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Away at Wigan I heard
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