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| Quote ="Locko's Luck"Temporary job until the end of the season or until #cough# pizzez him off?'"
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| After Easter Brian Noble To Leeds Rhinos And Brian McDermott To Hull FC, If Results Aint Going Leeds And FC Still
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| why on earth all this crap about noble.....whats he done thats so good that fc would want him? may aswell see the season out with agar then go for an oz coach
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| Quote ="forevafaithful"why on earth all this crap about noble.....whats he done thats so good that fc would want him? may aswell see the season out with agar then go for an oz coach'"
not the biggest fan of noble but god hes better then agar and hes the sort of guy and coach that would certainly improve us and what he did at bradford, wigan and espciaslly the crusaders proves that hes a decent coach and better then agar but i would like us to go for a good aussie coach
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| Quote ="forevafaithful"why on earth all this crap about noble.....whats he done thats so good that fc would want him? may aswell see the season out with agar then go for an oz coach'"
A couple of super league titles, challenge cup, world club champions.
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| Quote ="Sheldon"A couple of super league titles, challenge cup, world club champions.'"
how long ago.....times have changed and so has the rugby
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| Quote ="forevafaithful"how long ago.....times have changed and so has the rugby'"
Took a poor crusaders side to the top 8.
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| Quote ="Sheldon"Took a poor crusaders side to the top 8.'"
Stop chucking facts around.
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| speaking of aussies - Trent Robinson is a class act and will do well at Perpignan - I think he's another Nathan Brown !
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| has Edwards been sheared?
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| Quote ="Sheldon"Took a poor crusaders side to the top 8.'"
Isn't Noble a coach who would demand the cash is thrown around. Look at his track record. Nearly bankrupted Bradford with the Harris affair. Signed Fielden for Wigan and in all rights they should have been thrown out for that and the year he was at Crusaders they went bang.
Looking at your clubs financial governance do you think he fits the profile?
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| If nothing else this thread shows the following,
A) some people who claim to be knowledgeable about rugby can make themselves look stupid.
B) if Agar ever goes you would have to be an absolute idiot to take the job as you ain't going to please everyone even before you have a team on the park.
I ask this in all seriousness. Do people sit at their computers in Hull with cans of Special Brew on hand rendering them idiotic before they type?
The idea that Edwards would even consider coaching us is beyond silly. The idea that he is an unproven coach is frankly laughable. He is a leader of men and one who has innovative ideas which have worked within a sport that he hardly knew before starting. I am no Lawrence Dallaigo fan or RU fan for that matter but he holds Edwards in the highest of regards having considered him an outsider from League when he joined Wasps.
Equally anyone who thinks Noble is not good enough is not worth discussing. He is simply the best British coach around and he is available apparently. The question might be asked if he actually wants to do it again.
So those two are not good enough clearly but we will go for an untried Aussie assistant on the basis that Brown has apparently done a good job at the Giants without actually winning anything let alone got anywhere near a grand final. Oh and McGuire simply tweaked the 3rd best team in the comp (elimination final in 09) that was developed by Noble.
Still what do I know I'm not from Hull and have lived in the London area for 20 yrs.
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| Quote ="barham red"Isn't Noble a coach who would demand the cash is thrown around. Look at his track record. Nearly bankrupted Bradford with the Harris affair. Signed Fielden for Wigan and in all rights they should have been thrown out for that and the year he was at Crusaders they went bang.
Looking at your clubs financial governance do you think he fits the profile?'"
That's because they over spent, we are able to spend the cap.
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| Quote ="Sheldon"That's because they over spent, we are able to spend the cap.'"
So were Wigan and Bradford. Theres the cap and then there's the cap... My point being that I think Noble would want full control of the purse strings and I'm not sure your board would want that.
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| Quote ="barham red"So were Wigan and Bradford. Theres the cap and then there's the cap... My point being that I think Noble would want full control of the purse strings and I'm not sure your board would want that.'"
Of the £1.65 million he should have, if there's any money for transfer fees the board will let him know.
The Bradford and Wigan examples were only allowed to happen because the board let it.
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| Quote ="Graham Richards"
Equally anyone who thinks Noble is not good enough is not worth discussing. He is simply the best British coach around and he is available apparently. The question might be asked if he actually wants to do it again.'"
Thanks for that sanctamonious claptrap, Noble nearly bankrupt the Bulls, and the Wigan success was down to McGuire. He did a good job at Crusaders I agree.
I don't want him at FC, he is not what we need to move forward, if Noble were the top coach that some claim he'd be coaching, not poncing around with Mickey Rourke.
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| Quote ="Standee"...the Wigan success was down to McGuire.
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That's not what McGuire says. In any event, he took them from rock bottom to genuine contenders.
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| Quote ="Rock God X"That's not what McGuire says. In any event, he took them from rock bottom to genuine contenders.'"
fair enough
it's opinion at the end of the day, and my opinion is that I don't want him at FC.
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| Quote ="Standee"fair enough
it's opinion at the end of the day, and my opinion is that I don't want him at FC.'"
I'm undecided. He's a massive upgrade on the current incumbent, but whether he can deliver the success we crave is largely unknown. If he could do with us what he did for Wigan before letting someone else take over I'd be more than happy.
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| Quote ="Rock God X"I'm undecided. He's a massive upgrade on the current incumbent, but whether he can deliver the success we crave is largely unknown. If he could do with us what he did for Wigan before letting someone else take over I'd be more than happy.'"
short term to the end of the year I'd be happy with, like you, I don't think he's a long term answer.
But he isn't coaching anywhere at the moment, maybe he doesn't want to be?
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| Quote ="Standee"short term to the end of the year I'd be happy with, like you, I don't think he's a long term answer.'"
I think I'd be happy for him to be given until at least the end of 2012. I don't think such a short term deal (as to the end of this season) would benefit either party.
Quote ="Standee"But he isn't coaching anywhere at the moment, maybe he doesn't want to be?'"
A minute ago it was because he's not the top class coach some claim him to be. Make your mind up!
In all seriousness, I reckon he wouldn't take much persuading.
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| Quote ="Rock God X"A minute ago it was because he's not the top class coach some claim him to be. Make your mind up!'"
I don't think he has had interest from a club that he sees as being "his standard", he's been and gone as a "top" coach as far as I can see now.
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| Quote ="Standee"I don't think he has had interest from a club that he sees as being "his standard", he's been and gone as a "top" coach as far as I can see now.'"
He obviously saw Crusaders as his standard. Has a job become available since he left there?
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| Quote ="Rock God X"He obviously saw Crusaders as his standard. Has a job become available since he left there?'"
I don't know, there must be opportunities in Australia etc., even as an assistant at one of the big clubs, for the right candidate. I don't know the circumstances behind him leaving Crusaders either.
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| Quote ="Standee"I don't know, there must be opportunities in Australia etc., even as an assistant at one of the big clubs, for the right candidate. I don't know the circumstances behind him leaving Crusaders either.'"
He might not fancy moving to Australia. As soon as a job becomes available over here, you can bet your boots he'll be somewhere near the top of the short list. In many ways I hope it's at Hull. If someone else snaps him up, we could be lumbered with a hell of a lot worse than Nobby...
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