judging on today,i agree.why spend money on moore(a player no-one else has taken a punt on)if we have equal,OR potentially better!!!

I was impressed with young Williams and If he's handled properly Imo he'll be a star of the future; he has a very good slight of hand - quick to catch and pass, he looked elusive today especially near the line. I'd like to see more of him before the season starts to get a better idea of his abilities. One thing is for sure, I don't feel so worried about back up half backs as I did prior to the game.

Remind me , which planet did you live on? When did you go back?

Potentail is one thing but can Williams cover Long now?

Are you john okul?

No, as I said months ago, we need someone for 2012 &2013. Williams can cover them and take over in 2014.
We still don't have 7 cover this year.
Although Williams performance does explain why the club has not gone for someone like Moore.

It seems pretty clear that Nicklas will be the cover for Long and Turner the cover for Horne.

It does indeed, how much game time has he seen at 7?

williams is not quite ready,but nicklas perhaps is.but the fact that no SL club is in for moore perhaps tells us all what we need to know?the times i have seen moore play(admit its only on sky!!)he has looked good,but tbh,Nicklas and Williams could do a fantastic job in that league,so maybe that's the point?Moore is no better than what we have?i would like to see williams and to a lesser extent nicklas been loaned out for a month or dual registered,to see how they cut it in the championship?judging on what i saw today,williams would be a very good player,but i would prefer to see him higher up the ladder,league wise(championship,rather than championship 1).

Been tlaking about Williams for about 3 years now as I have watched him for a quiet a while at club and school level. Got the makings of a great 7, last year he played for the reserves but was still young enough for the under 18's, no need to rush him.

Should be signed FT in the near future.

I'm with you, some people seem to want to label him the new Peter Sterling after one game against a Doncaster team also in pre-season containing players who wouldn't stand out playing for East Hull.

What I would say is that if we have identified players with SL potential surely they should be full time? I don't understand the keep them part time mentality, go full time as early as possible (16,17,1icon_cool.gif and give them the best possible chance of making the grade.

I don't know about Williams but others go full time when they complete theIr education.

Thats it, as good as they are and as much as they can earn good money if they make it, the club have to ensure they allow them to finish studies and have a back up career if anything goes wrong.

IIRC Tom Briscoe did exactly this too

I think the Club, League, or whoever initiated this deserves some credit

I know Union sides have built up strong links with Universities that allow their full time players to structure their studies around training full time and their playing commitments; therefore they get the best of both worlds. Leeds Carnegie, leicester Tigers and Newcastle Falcons definitely do this. Cardiff Blues and British lions centre Jamie Roberts is still at Medical School whilst being a full time pro too. I don't think Hull do this or have any provision for players to do this.

Even the Hull Rugby Union have an arrangement with Bishop Burton College where the "Rugby Scholars" benefit from free accomodation, free tuition fees and rigorous daily training under Tevita Vaikona. It's the scheme Laurence Pearce was on.

He has played 6 for the 21's however the way they play with split halves means he would have no problem playing at 7.

Agar has stated when long plays he's first receiver, does that mean if he's missing or first team plays with split halfs?

So inafect changing our game plan.

I get what your saying however today with Turner playing at 6 and offfering a bigger running threat Nicklas and Williams in particular both stepped up and were taking control as 1st reciever which is different to how they were playing for the 21's. Think the playing with split halves is a good idea for younger players as it helps them both to develop their talk more and have equal responsibility on the play calling.

As I've said in another thread, Williams was playing behind a dominant pack against a fairly poor Doncaster side, which explains why he looked better than he has in the U20's side (not that I have seen him play, but that was the concensus of opinion around me), wether he could do a job in SL you can't really tell from that game.

I was told Niklas had injured his knee, but the match report suggets nobody is injured, any ideas?

And fnally, Washbrook at 9 is not going to work.

Tbh HF I prefer the 'Arsenal' approach.

All Hull age groups should play the same system and style, then when a player is missing another player can come in and fit in without any disruption.

So he's wrote off after one game, brilliant!

Fair comment. Did you miss his season with the illawarra steelers in 1989??

Dont you understand English, i just havent seen him play simple as that !!
anyway back to lee williams ffs

What not even for Leeds/Salford post 90s??? How old are you 15...

Came back on late in game strapped up