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| Jack Briscoe shouldnt be anywhere near the 17 for friday. We are playing away from home, on sky television, against a team with one of the best tactical kickers in super league, and people are seriously suggesting that we should throw in a 17/18 year old who has no super experience whatsoever? Get real people. And as for us having 'nothing to lose' well how about the kids confidence for a start? Its hardly the time or place for us to be considering giving someone a debut who has not yet competed at this level, nor would it be fair on him. I would put Berrigan there when we are defending, and bring him into the halves in attack (like Wigan do with Tomkins), hardly ideal but he's probably the best man for the job imo.
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| Quote ="super_fc"Jack Briscoe shouldnt be anywhere near the 17 for friday. We are playing away from home, on sky television, against a team with one of the best tactical kickers in super league, and people are seriously suggesting that we should throw in a 17/18 year old who has no super experience whatsoever? '"
Who was the 17/18 year old that featured in the Hull side at Wire a couple of seasons ago? Think it was the 1st or 2nd game of the season and we had some injuries.
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| Quote ="Big Dave T"Who was the 17/18 year old that featured in the Hull side at Wire a couple of seasons ago? Think it was the 1st or 2nd game of the season and we had some injuries.'"
Tom Briscoe opposite Matt King.
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| Quote ="bexandy-FC"Briers would kick young Jack to death, that said, can't come up with an option that has no draw backs......or fullbacks. Can't imagine he'll go for Hall after Wigan. Berrigan probably has the ability to do well there but is in the halves so i guess it should be one of the Briscoe's........Sean!!!!!!'"
Is his kicking suddenly going to be cack if we dont play J.Briscoe? Fact is he would have kicked Tansey to death as well. I'd play him and have a back up plan in place if he really struggles. Sometimes coming up against top quality opposition like that can be good for a young kid to give him an idea of the standards he needs to work towards.
Reece made a few mistakes on his debut at Salford but it hasn't done him any harm. Yeamo was taken apart early on in his career by Newlove and he said it only spurred him on to make sure it never happened again. As long as the usual numpties dont start on the kid if he does make a mistake then it should be fine.
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| The only reason I can see him not to be played is the backs would be very inexperienced.
But at least he's played full back has any other except hall?
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| Quote ="Robbo4"Is his kicking suddenly going to be cack if we dont play J.Briscoe? Fact is he would have kicked Tansey to death as well. I'd play him and have a back up plan in place if he really struggles. Sometimes coming up against top quality opposition like that can be good for a young kid to give him an idea of the standards he needs to work towards.
Reece made a few mistakes on his debut at Salford but it hasn't done him any harm. Yeamo was taken apart early on in his career by Newlove and he said it only spurred him on to make sure it never happened again. As long as the usual numpties dont start on the kid if he does make a mistake then it should be fine.'"
Some good arguments as to why he should play IMO.
One thing not mentionned is Jack's recent form in the U20's. I have been told by a couple of people that his form has been poor at that level recently and may be the main reason behind his non selection (assuming he isnt selected in the squad!)
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| Quote ="knocker norton"Some good arguments as to why he should play IMO.
One thing not mentionned is Jack's recent form in the U20's. I have been told by a couple of people that his form has been poor at that level recently and may be the main reason behind his non selection (assuming he isnt selected in the squad!)'"
I haven't seen much of the U20's this season but I seem to recall some people saying Big Sam looked ordinary when he was playing at that level earlier in the season. I'm not sure U20's form really means all that much TBH.
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| Quote ="Robbo4"Is his kicking suddenly going to be cack if we dont play J.Briscoe'"
Which is why our game plan, as it always should with Wire, should centre around keeping posession, closing their kickers down and keeping them in their own half.
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| Quote ="Robbo4"I haven't seen much of the U20's this season but I seem to recall some people saying Big Sam looked ordinary when he was playing at that level earlier in the season. I'm not sure U20's form really means all that much TBH.'"
Exactly, I remember Wilf saying Sam looked average at best for the majority of the time, but once he got a crack at the first team he was a different beast all together.
We also have the advantage that this game is not a must win game, yes would be nice to win it, but if we lose we still have the Leeds game to claim 4th spot.
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| Quote ="Big Dave T"Who was the 17/18 year old that featured in the Hull side at Wire a couple of seasons ago? Think it was the 1st or 2nd game of the season and we had some injuries.'"
Only for about 3/4mins tho. Not from the start of them game, we were already beaten when Tom came on!!
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| if you want to destroy a player in one game play jack briscoe
if he plays the focus if we lost would be on him playing and making bad choices and agar for picking him
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| Why would it destroy him? When do we give players their debuts, when their 24?
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| I would say there is less pressure on JB if he plays due to it not being a win at all costs game, yes 2 points would be nice , esp if Leeds slip up, but our season finish hinges more on next game and Horne should be back for that.
id have no qulams on playing him if we fell its right and cant be covered with other options
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| Quote ="Hutchie"I would say there is less pressure on JB if he plays due to it not being a win at all costs game, yes 2 points would be nice , esp if Leeds slip up, but our season finish hinges more on next game and Horne should be back for that.
id have no qulams on playing him if we fell its right and cant be covered with other options'"
Agree, all players have to start somewhere but this seasons run in is not jacks opening gambit im afraid!!
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| I'd have no hesitation of throwing Briscoe in .
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| Quote ="Danny 2"if you want to destroy a player in one game play jack briscoe
if he plays the focus if we lost would be on him playing and making bad choices and agar for picking him'"
Talk about an over reaction. Most supporters would be able to see we are out of cover for the FB position with both Horne & Whiting out. So rather than continue to play players out of position it would make sense to a lot of supporters to see a player who plays fullback (albeit in the U20's) normally to step up and play it for the first team.
I also think supporters would be happier to see Jack in the side rather than Hall, i know which one Agar would recieve more stick for if they have a bad game.
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| Totally agree, start playing the reserves, it's not the end of the world if we get beat.
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| Tricky one this. Jack played in the pre-season at Sheffield and looked a bit out of his depth at that time. It would be a massive test for him although talk of it potentially 'destroying' him is ridiculous. Hall was a disaster at full back and is on his way anyway. If Turner is fit I would play him there and keep Willie in the centre. Not ideal whichever way you look at it.
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| me personally i would play jack at centre with tom and turner at fullback jack shouldnt be playing fullback agaist one of the best kickers in the game
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| Quote ="Danny 2"me personally i would play jack at centre with tom and turner at fullback jack shouldnt be playing fullback agaist one of the best kickers in the game'"
so youd play him at centre opposite King,
Time for Agar to go and Dan to take the job i reckon
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| Quote ="Hutchie"so youd play him at centre opposite King,
Time for Agar to go and Dan to take the job i reckon
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| Hull FC 19-man squad: Berrigan, Burnett, J. Briscoe, T. Briscoe, Cusack, Dowes, Fitzgibbon, Hall, Houghton, Lyne, Lauaki, Manu, Moa, O'Meley, Radford, Tickle, Turner, Washbrook, Yeaman
Thats the 19 man squad but Burnett is injured so that takes him out of the equation also he cant seriously consider playing Hall at fullback or at all for that matter so J.Briscoe had to at least be in the starting lineup.
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| Quote ="Danny 2"me personally i would play jack at centre with tom and turner at fullback jack shouldnt be playing fullback agaist one of the best kickers in the game'"
So Jack would be best playing out of position where he will still bear the brunt of the kicks???
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| What about Turner at Full back and Manu at centre And J Briscoe on the bench
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| Quote ="kt170496"What about Turner at Full back and Manu at centre And J Briscoe on the bench'"
You can be Dans assistant
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