injury ravaged saints?

Berrigan, Lauaki, Horne, Calderwood all missing! and all internationals!

so unless we win the grand final youd say the season would be a failure?

Some are unbelievable Sheldon



Saints had a team out that would have won against many sides...Credit to Agar & the boys

like has been said previously fc didnt do much wrong in the 1st half....but cut the penalties out in the 2nd half which improved the play and possesion no end also speeded up the ptb (playing saints at there own game) and use of interchanges so credit must go to agar..thats how i saw it anyhow

All I know is that I haven't felt this good after a game for a long while. I'll take 2 wins over the Saints in one season any day

I wish the whole Agar thing could be put on the back burner for a while, win or lose can't we just see how we go? Is that too much to ask.

We still have problem defending out side and even though it was a great comeback some of the tries were ragged ones and not through great rugby.

However I don't think we were that bad in the first half, we just got no ball for 15 mins and the ref killed us with pens. It too it's toll but once we got a fair share of the ball we started to take control.

Character in abundance and credit should go to coaches and players, still in 4th and getting players back, lets enjoy it.

You should know by now that injuries only count when they happen to the opposing side.

Spot on Paul. Can't believe that some people are finding time to snipe and whinge even after last night.

Liked the choice of music as we were leaving the KC - The Jam's "That's Entertainment".
For me that at long last was entertainment. That's what I want, a performance like that. Hope it's here to stay now and not just on show for the big games.

Good on yer. I'm sure he will strive just that bit harder now.

No, people are suggesting areas for continual improvement.

I'm just baffled by some of the things the guy still does like carrying hall on the bench. I gave credit to Agar for his half time team talk. It's the little things like the hall mistake that could ultimately cost us in some games. There's room for improvement.

Its that little ginger bugger sticking his oar in.

As I said in my post at the beginning of the thread, some people who've gone on the Agar Knocking bandwagon need to get off it before they make themselves look even more stupid.

Can see these fools at Old Trafford (Should we get there and win

)shouting Agar out

Stop it now your making yourselves look very very silly and although your only a very small minority seemingly knocking him as far as the whole fanbase goes (Thank God) Your only fueling the Red Side of the town and making fuel for their fires. Pack it in and take a look at the league table

You sound surprised.

Haven't you been on this forum for a while now.



Fickle is the word.

I'm buzzing still. Best win for ages and on a feelgood factor win as good as Cardiff 05

McShane was injured, so what if Danny Houghton got injured during the game? Because Hall was on the bench we had options - Hall to 6, Washy to 9 or Hall to , Turner to 6, Washy to 9 or even Hall to full back Tansey to 9 (god forbid). If Burnett was on the bench, what would you have done if Danny got injured?? Moa to 9?

By the sounds of it, Danny Houghton had an absolute cracker and deserved to stay on the pitch the whole 80 minutes, if that's the case Agar was playing what was in front of him rather than a pre thought out plan - something people said he did before.

And Saints had 6 internationals out plus 2 got injured on the night(Roby Another international & Wheeler) so they were hindered injury wise more than us.
As I said I'm stocked at the win but strictly speaking if we don't win silverware (ie come second or worse) then that IS failure. Yes we seemed to have improved somewhat from the previous 2 years BUT and this is a big but, we were 2nd & 3rd from bottom ffs!
With the players in the squad we've had that is not even remotely acceptable injuries or no!

Without leaders like Fitz & Long in the side we'd be propping up the table without a shadow of a doubt, having seen the same errors in the team on the field of play I have no doubt that Agar is still not the man for the job.

Can you see us winning the grand final this year or next playing the rugby we do? I can't.

I'm not sure you know what fickle actually means.

You keep accusing people of being fickle for not changing their opinion based on one win

Not Agar's biggest fan (In case you didn;t guess) but the lads came out in that second half ready for a battle. Not seen us come out that fired up for a while. Saints did their homework and moved the ball out wide whenever possible to try and expose our weak defence out wide.
I suspect Longy had more than a few words at half time as well but Agar gets the credit for turning them around at half time when to be honest it looked like a drubbing was on the cards.

Maybe not, but how many teams go from 12th to winning the grand final in one year in the SL?

Yes and if you take Peacock and Sinfield out of Leeds' team they're a much worse team as are Warrington without Monaghan and Briers - the way the salary cap is you can't replace someone like Longy or Fitz with someone who is just as good.

We're 4th, 2 points from 2nd have beat 3 of last years top 4, doing the double over a team who has reached the grand final 4 consecutive years... jeez some people are never happy.

To be fair, it seems in the last couple of weeks his team talks have really led to an improved second half performance. Maybe he is starting to get it right.

Before the game we also had Horne/Lauaki/Calderwood/Berro Missing so pretty even with players out before the game, as for players getting injured during the game that was mainly down to the intensity of the Hull running so again nothing you can take away from us on that. We played some great rugby at times again last night and it is a big improvement on the dire one man rugby we played the previous 2 seasons.

I dont expect us to win the GF or get to it this year, and was never a goal for most supporters. Making the playoffs with a decent position in the table 4th-6th was most peoples expectations and to be fair to Agar we are certainly on course for that.

I am not convinced about Agar but we seem to be turning a corner and the only thing that is letting us down now is our defence out wide.

Burnett would have still been the best option on the bench imo. Manu to centre, Turner to 6 and Washy to 9 would have been my choice had Houghton got injured.

I disagree in modern sport with coaches carrying subs in case of injury when they should really be there to give a tactical advantage at certain points in the game.

Those on this thread saying to get off agars back need to re-read the posts that are been written. Agar is getting plenty of credit, from me included but that doesnt mean we have to agree with everything he does. People are simply suggesting better ways to do things putting the result to one side. Why not?