It's nothing to do with engaging brain before posting at all...... it's to do with my opinion.

Richard Horne is over rated by too many people. He's an average player. If he was a quota player everyone would be up in arms about how cr@p he is.. He's been past it for a long time now!!

It's no good saying he'd be great with Long, as most players would be great with Long (or any other good scrumhalf). His problem is he can't even get the basics right.... There are so many players in superleague better than Rich Horne on a fraction of his wage!! Get rid, there's no room for sentiment in sport!!

Fullback. FFS is fecking obvious.

It's about time those within the ivory towers took a decent look at themselves and just see were they want the club to go. Again we stumble upon the chance to push on as a club and return to those days were we were a force within RL and not just contenders . It just seems £ is the trophy now .

The trouble I see (apart from Agar) is that we are constantly harking back to 2005 and 2006 with some players.
Horne is a classic example. I have supported him through thick and thin but we are now waiting for him to replicate form of years ago. The question is how long do we wait and at what point do we say thanks for the memories / the effort etc etc. I strongly believe that time is now with Horne.
Another for me is Yeaman. Yes he has at times shown a bit of form this season but when he signed a new contract there was talk on here of if her replicates the form of 2006" ... how long do we wait for that?

I could go on but Agar , Washy, Horney, Hall, Dowes are for me the nucleous of our problems has beens or never will bees who simply are not good enough for a top four team, or at least a team with aspirations of top 4.

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Most of the above sums it up for me. You could see from the first set he was limping badly, and should never have been out there.

The team/squad on paper is more than capable of challenging in SL, but it is the way the team is setup that makes us look like a NL1 team. Agar is 5 years behind the rest of SL with his tactics, and it is turning a very good squad into no hopers. There are 3 main things for me that need to change [not including replacing Agar with a real tactitian, Steve Foulkes for me and they are needs to give this Club the direction it needs on the field.

He used to be.

And never has been. Even when Cooke was at the club people, for whatever reason, seemed to think that Horne was a scrum half because he had a squad number 7 on his back. He's always played better with a decent partner, I don't understand why it's a shock to people.

When Horne and Turner are together at 6 and 7 we don't have an ounce of creativity. Horne is a runner and Turner isn't a half back full stop imo. We could do alot worse than put Nicklas there for a game or two untill Longs back.

horne looked back to his best earlier in the year. He is clearly unfit and should not have played. He doesn't deserve some of the negative things been said on here

think you will find if you engaged your brain more, less tosh would come out your mouth.
its nothing to do with Horne being a HULL lad, he was obviously injured yesterday , and to say he cant get the basics right is tosh

I read on here how Long will bite back and tell players and coaching staff if things are going wrong and if things need changing, are you guys to assume he is having no say at all?

Our attack coach is Agar, so you can assume Long is having no input at all,judging by their performances.

So what tosh has come out of my mouth exactly?? Or are you actually retarded??

If he was injured he shouldn't have played but he did and was cr@p!! Just like the last 4/5 years!! He's average at best, and has to go...

This

Worst player on the the pitch by far!!
Half a million £s in his testimonial events and IMO he's stolen a living for 10+yrs.......
Never been great and getting worse!! He's got to go, he's on good money and we get nothing back from him!!

Horne has been great for Hull FC for 8 years the last 2 years, plus most this season he has been poor.

He seems to get too many injuries these days, also illness and injuries havent helped and I think his days at Hull FC are coming to an end.

He use to make regular breaks, this hasnt happened for the last few years on a regualar basis.

Also whats happned to his defence he use to be one of the best defenders in SL, now his defence is poor.

Drop him or play him at FB, with Tansey at 6.

the tosh is YOU stating Horney needs to go and finding every opportunity to slag him off, , and that he is average, , its obvious he was limping yesterday, and maybe he shouldnt have played HOWEVER HE WASNT THE ONLY ONE THAT WAS POOR yesterday
go figure

You are Richard Horne and I claim my £5 !!!

hes been injured for the majority of the last 2 seasons, and granted hes not been at his best in the last few matches, but previous to that he was showing glimpses of his best, and to say he has been cr*p for the last 4/5 years??? id say you take a look at past matches, you may have a change of opinion, but judging of your previous posts, id say you wont, \horne was garbage yeaterday, as was others, and to single him out the way you are, to me shows you know sweet FA!!!!

Hmmm, when I came on here after the Leeds win in the cup match, basically asking what had happened to Richard Horne, I was pretty much accused of being a sick, no nowt, insensitive c**t!!

Seems a number of Hull fans actually agree with my sentiments. Shame on those people making out I was a troll picking on somebody with an illness.

Simple fact is I have an opinion like everyone else on here!! Some will slag off hall, tansey, agar, radford etc..... My opinion is as I have stated before Horne isn't as good as some like to think!! He is certainly not the worst player in the world but, as I have also said, he is; 1) in our highest 5 earners at the club, but nowhere near the 5 best players at the club. 2) if he cannot play well without the most successful scrum half in superleague than why is he here? Should we sign Paul Cooke back just to get him playing well again?? There are many players I'd rather see who can play in many other positions aswell as their 'specialist' one!!

And to say I know nothing just because I have an opinion is ridiculous, I'm comfortable with my knowledge and the length of time I've been watching fc!!

TBF it is difficult to take someone seriously when they start ranting from the outset and claim that Horne was the worst player on the pitch when that was clearly Hall. In fact Tansey and Turner were probably marginally worse than Horne when you consider that they were fully fit.

and to call someone retarded because of their opinion is also ridiculous!! opinions are great, we all have them, the world would be a boring place if we all was of the same opinion!! BUT(and my service of watching FC, is nearing 30 odd years) i still think you know nowt (lol)!!! (as i probably dont) were all great coaches sat in the stands!!! lol

Correct, I fully agree!! My point about being retarded was due to the fact that I was told I was spouting tosh from my mouth!! When I wad actually spouting 'tosh' through my keyboard!! How do you speak through Rlfans

There are a few problems here:

Firstly Richard Horne has never been able to boss a game (look back to when he was made skipper in front of Cooke), he is also not a creative half, he sniffs tries on the back of others' creativity.

He was clearly injured yesterday, taking the field with only slightly fewer bandages than Imhotep.

I am still convinced that he is suffering from some form of psychological fallout from what was, in anyone's book, a very serious neck injury.

He is also suffering, the same as every other squad member, from playing to the directions of a clueless buffoon, who spends three years assembling "his" squad and thinks his job is done after the 1st game of the season.

I engage my brain before speaking