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| Quote ="Standee"No, Standee is here, and quite happy to say Whiting had a very good game at fb last night and should, without doubt, keep the fb spot ahead of Tansey next week.
[uIt will be interesting to see a Long/Turner combination at some point in the future, was impressed with Turner last night, he seemed to take the pressure off Horne which led to Rich having a fairly good game (and a well taken try) too[/u.'"
Nail on the head Turner took equal shares of the kicks and general support, I also look forward to seeing Long/Turner...a young Leon Price maybe strong,and fast maybe...
If Tuner does have potential Longy will be the one to bring it out.
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| Dont think he was mom but he definately played out of his skin. Would be h to move him to accomodate Tansey next week.
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| Quote ="Big Dave T"Dont think he was mom but he definately played out of his skin. Would be h to move him to accomodate Tansey next week.'"
Hell of a dilemma for Agar isn't it.
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| Quote ="B0NES"Hell of a dilemma for Agar isn't it.
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Yup, i wouldnt change it either. If Agar is desperate to accomodate Tansey i'd name him on the bench in place of Houghton. Other than that 1,6 and 7 should all stay the same unless Long is fit which i very much doubt.
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| One thing about Whiting last night that i would be critical about was his refusal to take the ball on the full, nearly each kick was allowed to bounce numerous times. Against another team those balls would have been higly contested.
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| Quote ="hullbg"One thing about Whiting last night that i would be critical about was his refusal to take the ball on the full, nearly each kick was allowed to bounce numerous times. Against another team those balls would have been higly contested.'"
To be fair, I think he was just playing to the conditions and the opposition. Why risk taking a high ball in wet conditions when there's no pressure to do so. If they'd have been chasing, he'd have been up there contesting like he has done in previous FB appearances. And, to add to that, there weren't that many high balls anyway.
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| I would choose the same starting 13. I'd give Houghton's bench spot to Tansey who could also slot in at 9 if required and I'd also like to see Moa on the bench in place of Dowes or Cusack.
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| If Tansey is to come in, it has to be at the expense of one of the halves.
I thought both Turner and Horne played well, but not exceptional. Turner had his first hit out, which is fair enough. Put in some chip kicks that asked questions, but by God some of his bombs were awful! Horney just isn't much of an organiser and certainly doesn't take hold of a game as much as he used to.
I don't think Houghton should be dropped at all. He does his role very well.
I'd also like to see Moa in for some impact. He needs his first hit-out. Probably for Cusack.
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| Quote ="Standee"In that case, have a rest Mr Horne, we need to try the future half back pairing
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Not sure that resting him just after he seems to be getting some form back would be the right thing to do. Could damage his confidence.
Some difficult decisions this week for sure.
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| scenario :- tansey plays at half back and has a stormer along side Horne, do we then leave Long on the side lines when he returns because the player who slotted into his position has had a good game?
for me Tansey at Full back and Whiting back into the centre (or give him a run out at 6) Hall on the wing for Briscoe /Calderwood
and why are some people saying bring tansey on the bench for Houghton? whats he done wrong?
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| I'd put Tansey back in there next week without hesitation. Whiting had a great game last night dont get me wrong, but lets not forget Tansey has been one of our most consistent players so far this season and is our no1 fullback. Whiting isn't going to be the long term no1 so I don't see the point in playing him there unless Tansey is injured/suspended. However the dilemma then is, where does Whiting play? Can you drop Hall after last nights display? Agars got some very tough decisions to make next week thats for sure.
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| If Long is still out then for me it's simple. Tansey in to the halves and Turner on to the bench in place of Houghton.
Turner did well, first half especially but it was hardly a performance that says you can't drop me. I'd like to see him off the bench and maybe even running from dummy half.
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| Thing with Whiting is that he's great as a temp we all know it his utility value etc, it's been done to death but thats it just on a temporary basis. I remember him covering FB before with a good couple of games then having a stinker. I would bring Tansey back but I'd get Denis Moore to tell Whiting he's dropped or send him one of those funny texts people send to say you've been dumped
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| Quote ="PAUL M"If Long is still out then for me it's simple. Tansey in to the halves and Turner on to the bench in place of Houghton.
Turner did well, first half especially but it was hardly a performance that says you can't drop me. I'd like to see him off the bench and maybe even running from dummy half.'"
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| Quote ="Standee"No, Standee is here, and quite happy to say Whiting had a very good game at fb last night and should, without doubt, keep the fb spot ahead of Tansey next week.
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world exclusive Standee compliments RW
you are right tho , its a sign of a good man who can compliment and knock when deserved!! proud of you mukker
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| Quote ="World of Redboy"Whiting would never have scored the try Hall did though'"
whiting wouldnt have flapped at the missed shirt grab tackles that Hall did on 6 ocassions last night!!!
totally different players mate
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| Quote ="penny for your thoughts"scenario :- tansey plays at half back and has a stormer along side Horne, do we then leave Long on the side lines when he returns because the player who slotted into his position has had a good game?
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Long is out for a different reason than Tansey.
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| Quote ="major black"Thing with Whiting is that he's great as a temp we all know it his utility value etc, it's been done to death but thats it just on a temporary basis. I remember him covering FB before with a good couple of games then having a stinker. '"
You do? You remember differently to me.
Whiting has been very good in three out of the four games this season and played no worse than anyone else in the fourth. He deserves a place in the starting line up on merit because he's a very good player, not because he's 'temping' for someone else.
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| Quote ="major black"Thing with Whiting is that he's great as a temp we all know it his utility value etc, it's been done to death but thats it just on a temporary basis. I remember him covering FB before with a good couple of games then having a stinker. quote
when was that then cos i dont remember that ?? was that a match you watched on the radio??
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| tansey for me needs to work his socks off to get fullback this week
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| Whiting was superb, FB could be regarded as the hardest position to play and he made it look easy. He has time, thats something you can't coach, he just reads the game so well.
No one has mentioned the killer ball he gives to Manu on this thread, he made that look easy. Who else what have had the ball skills to have done that, certainly not Washbrook who most on here have been clamouring for pre-season. Berrigan or Tansey wouldn't have had either, they're instinctive running types. I agree it's hard to know where to play him at present and it's about playing to the squads strengths. It's nice that Agar has this headache and its great for our club that we maybe have the most versatlie player in SL like Phil Clarke alluded to last night.
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| as Agar said in his comments, given an extra yard of speed Whiting would be an international!! simple as that
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| Quote ="Amadeo Avogadro"You do? You remember differently to me.
Whiting has been very good in three out of the four games this season and played no worse than anyone else in the fourth. He deserves a place in the starting line up on merit because he's a very good player, not because he's 'temping' for someone else.'"
Yeah I do. 4 times actually and like I say did well as a stop gap but I wouldn't have him as our first choice number 1 IMO.
and by the way I'm not slagging the kid off, he would always be in or around my first team squad without a doubt.
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| Quote ="hullbg"One thing about Whiting last night that i would be critical about was his refusal to take the ball on the full, nearly each kick was allowed to bounce numerous times. Against another team those balls would have been higly contested.'"
let a couple of them bounce but i think that was due to Quins not kicking as far as expected.
Only one of them he seemed to really cock up , but made up for it in the return .
His and Briscoes ball return and work in the first half laid a great platform for our forwards.
I may seem a bit controvertial here but i would omit Rich Horne or bench him next week, just to keep him fresher for the Wigan game
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| Quote ="Hutchie"let a couple of them bounce but i think that was due to Quins not kicking as far as expected.
Only one of them he seemed to really cock up , but made up for it in the return .
[uHis and Briscoes ball return and work in the first half laid a great platform for our forwards.
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I may seem a bit controvertial here but i would omit Rich Horne or bench him next week, just to keep him fresher for the Wigan game'"
Agreed - what he lacks in pace with his ball return, he more than makes up for with leg drive. Great metres.
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