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| Quote ="CHEWIE7"Rich Agar will not (nor will he try) to coach the experience out of our arriving players. They will help him develop into a top coach. I've stuck by my gut instinct about Agar these last two disasterous campaigns. We've had more than our fair share of injuries, in fact there isn't a sporting team of any sort on this planet that would've coped any better than we did. Take the Challenge Cup final last year....We started without our main playmaker in Dykes, then lost Tom Briscoe as he was getting into his stride.....None of this Agars fault. Getting Horney to play was a bit 'brow-raising' but i'm glad he took part in a game where the lads gave as good as they got and almost caused an upset.
Like i've said before...we all have to learn our trade...i'm still learning as a sparky after almost 18 years!!!! Agar is learning by his mistakes...or should I say...HAS LEARNT! HIS squad will restore our pride and lift us into the top half of the 2010 table.....and I reckon it will shut a few doubters up too!!!!
I predict Silverwear for Hull FC next year!!!!'"
stop getting us excited with the next year speech its not close enough yet!!
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| No confidence for next season. Yes we have what looks like a decent pack, but as many have pointed out our pack was not the problem this season, our problem was creating scoring opportunities.
A huge burden is being put on a 33 year olds shoulders and i just hope we have something in the pipeline as a backup.
Agar i don't rate at all he has done nothing these last 2 seasons to make me think otherwise. I hope he proves me wrong but if the bloke cannot get his players in order on and off the pitch there is little hope.
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| Quote ="hullbg"No confidence for next season. Yes we have what looks like a decent pack, but as many have pointed out our pack was not the problem this season, our problem was creating scoring opportunities.
A huge burden is being put on a 33 year olds shoulders and i just hope we have something in the pipeline as a backup.
Agar i don't rate at all he has done nothing these last 2 seasons to make me think otherwise. I hope he proves me wrong but if the bloke cannot get his players in order on and off the pitch there is little hope.'"
I reckon that most people agree he has done his best to address that with his end of season "clearout" and I'm struggling to think of a better alternative anywhere in the world to Longy as a playmaker, organiser and as someone to develop the playing skills of our young halves.
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| Quote ="hullbg"No confidence for next season. Yes we have what looks like a decent pack, but as many have pointed out our pack was not the problem this season, our problem was creating scoring opportunities.'"
I beg to differ.
We may have made some decent yardage, but we very rarely bent or broke the oppositions defensive line. And we had nobody who really hurt the opposition in either attack or defence.
The major issue was the halfbacks, but our pack hardly struck fear into the opposition or helped create opportunities for attacking play.
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| Quote ="Kosh"I beg to differ.
We may have made some decent yardage, but we very rarely bent or broke the oppositions defensive line. And we had nobody who really hurt the opposition in either attack or defence.
The major issue was the halfbacks, but our pack hardly struck fear into the opposition or helped create opportunities for attacking play.'"
Totally agree. Whatever the stats say our pack was usually out muscled and on the back foot resulting in us regularly kicking from deep inside our own half adding pressure to an already poor kicking game. We were certainly poor in the opposition 20 but we weren't spending games camped out there as this idea of our pack being OK suggests. Far from it.
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| Quote ="Kosh"I beg to differ.
We may have made some decent yardage, but we very rarely bent or broke the oppositions defensive line. And we had nobody who really hurt the opposition in either attack or defence.
The major issue was the halfbacks, but our pack hardly struck fear into the opposition or helped create opportunities for attacking play.'"
I spoke with Johnny Whiteley recently and he said just that: that FC players were not hurting the opposition in the tackle, that an opposition player should get up knowing that he had been hit and hit hard. He said a simple example is where a defender drops on the ball and the tackle is completed by placing a hand on the player while they lay on the ground: he saw that as a great opportunity to drop your weight onto the player (not in a cheap-shot, dirty fashion) in a fair but aggressive manner - that makes the player think twice about dropping on the ball in future. The same would be true after holding a player up in the tackle - once your defence is set, you can drop onto the attacking player as you drop him to the ground -again making your presence felt. So no dirty tactics, just fair, hard, aggressive play.
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| Quote ="Staffs FC"Totally agree. Whatever the stats say our pack was usually out muscled and on the back foot resulting in us regularly kicking from deep inside our own half adding pressure to an already poor kicking game. We were certainly poor in the opposition 20 but we weren't spending games camped out there as this idea of our pack being OK suggests. Far from it.'"
Im pleased our packs seems to be a lot meaner and we've signed a scrum half.
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| Quote ="Big Dave T"Im pleased our packs seems to be a lot meaner and we've signed a scrum half.'"
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| Quote ="downtheante"I spoke with Johnny Whiteley recently and he said just that: that FC players were not hurting the opposition in the tackle, that an opposition player should get up knowing that he had been hit and hit hard. He said a simple example is where a defender drops on the ball and the tackle is completed by placing a hand on the player while they lay on the ground: he saw that as a great opportunity to drop your weight onto the player (not in a cheap-shot, dirty fashion) in a fair but aggressive manner - that makes the player think twice about dropping on the ball in future. The same would be true after holding a player up in the tackle - once your defence is set, you can drop onto the attacking player as you drop him to the ground -again making your presence felt. So no dirty tactics, just fair, hard, aggressive play.'"
Maybe Johnny should take a few coaching sessions, at least Agar might learn something.
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| Quote ="Staffs FC"[iShould[/i help
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I dont care if it does, we should see more exciting rugby though!!
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| Quote ="Big Dave T"I dont care if it does, we should see more exciting rugby though!!
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Gawd,I hope so.I could do with being taken out of the lethargy I have felt the last two seasons.
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| With both Lauaki and Moa rampaging into the defences and passing one handed speculators you can guarentee next season wont be as boring. Bit more pressure on the heart rate maybe!
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| Quote ="knocker norton"With both Lauaki and Moa rampaging into the defences and passing one handed speculators you can guarentee next season wont be as boring. Bit more pressure on the heart rate maybe!
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So i'll go from drinking myself silly out of boredom and getting liver disease to having heart attacks?
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| Quote ="Big Dave T"So i'll go from drinking myself silly out of boredom and getting liver disease to having heart attacks?
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It's the future!
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| The problem is that as a coach - Agar cant inspire the big guns.
Look at some of the successes in terms of coaching.
Huddersfield - new coach, and Crabtree looks world class (on occasion)
Wigan - after what he did, turning water to wine is a piece of !
HKR - as a Hull fan, what Morgan has done with that shambles is amazing!
Hull are a bigger club with a bigger expectancy - but this doesnt translate from pay cheque to pitch!
And that is the coaches job.
Get your man in from Wasps RU - tell the slackers to off to Isberg or York.
And then make those remaining hungry as hell.
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| Quote ="Big Dave T"So i'll go from drinking myself silly out of boredom and getting liver disease to having heart attacks?
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| Quote ="Cory69"but it wil be worth it though
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| We could also have a sweep on when Hame first gets a rollocking off the ref.
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| Quote ="barton baird"We could also have a sweep on when Hame first gets a rollocking off the ref.'"
will he complain to the hse that he isn't accompanied on the pitch by a interpreter?
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| Quote ="barton baird"We could also have a sweep on when Hame first gets a rollocking off the ref.'"
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| Quote ="barton baird"We could also have a sweep on when Hame first gets a rollocking off the ref.'"
Too easy. About 5 mins into his first appearance
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| Quote ="El Chupacabra"will he complain to the hse that he isn't accompanied on the pitch by a interpreter?'" thought that was radfords job
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| Who did Fitzgibbon, O Meley and Tansey sign from? Where did this team finish last season in the NRL?
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| Quote ="Eric The Viking"Who did Fitzgibbon, O Meley and Tansey sign from? Where did this team finish last season in the NRL?'"
Dobson was signed from Canberra reserves and is Rovers best and most important player. Whats your point again?
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| Quote ="Dave K."Dobson was signed from Canberra reserves and is Rovers best and most important player. Whats your point again?'"
Not sure he knows.
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