Well mr Roader...they are no longer being investigated and all is well in "a4e" or all 4 emma as we call it lol

Couldnt care less anyway tbh let emma make her millions from the unemployed i want no further part in it

I appreciate there are people out there who just don't want to know about work but there are people who genuinely do. I've been fortunate having worked at one of the city's biggest factory employers for 30 years since leaving school. For the past 7-8 years this firm has used an agency to fill gaps in the workforce. Some of these lads, lasses, have worked alongside me on half the wages i earn doing the same job and working as hard. The company have now decided to advertise these jobs and opened it for these agency workers to apply for them, and lo and behold the said agency workers are told they are not upto doing the job they've done for the last X amount of years. So they have set people on from management backgrounds to do labouring jobs who don,t want to know, and saunter around all day or try to get behind a computer so they don't have to graft. So is there any wonder some folk don't want to know after this sort of treatment, they just lose heart and i really feel for some of these agency workmates who will shortly be out there looking for work.

I wonder if they are going to interview Thorman?

But serisouly I have had some help recently and everyone was dead helpful. Can't be that bad.

I have been lucky in my working life ..Always had a job "retied now" But I feel sorry for the youngsters today ..Real money should be found to train people to get real jobs I fear for the future we will run out of skilled people .. My opinion when people get to 60/65 they should be made to retire to give younger people a chance to work ..Its about time we started looking at our future in this Country instead of giving money away to other Countries ..Good luck to people looking for work

I have just finished the Elevate course at A4e which was featured last week and i can tell you its nothing like it is on the TV. I am a single parent ( through no fault of my own ) and have worked ever since leaving college even through having my 3 children. I had a really good job and all of a sudden hubby runs off with a barmaid and wham, im left with nothing. I never wanted to claim benefits but had no choice. I tried everything to get a job but with no success. I volunteered for this course and was not forced onto it as my youngest has only just turned 2. There is good and bad things about A4e and having done my work placement actually working for them ive seen both sides. The majority have been forced there and nothing you do is good enough. A4e will do anything for you and help you find a job but you cant help those who dont wanna be helped. They blame A4e for everything when really its the jobcentre who are forcing them to be there. There are good and bad staff as in every company but the majority want to help. I actually came away from there feeling more deflated than when i started but then A4e got me an interview for a job this morning and i start on tues

so they will help those who genuinely want to find work.

well done hun glad its worked out for you x

There will always be people who don't want to work but for those who genuinely want to work, let's face it, the country is shot. It's difficult to find work and even more difficult to find a career. Where is all of the manufacturing - China? If you work in the factory at Smith and Nephew, what do you think is going to happen to manufacturing there? We are rapidly becoming a service-based country but even parts of that are moving (or have already moved abroad to countries like India). So what's left - diamond cutting? The new European countries have cheap, well-educated workforces and lots of tax advantages for businesses as well that make it even easier to move service centres. Just so long as you have accounting practices that haven't changed for 150 years and boards of directors whose only aim is to engineer the figures so that the markets are "encouraged by performance" and shareholders can pull in their dividends it will only get worse. How many of you have looked to your left and seen a contractor doing the work one of your mates can do but being paid more than double? When you ask why, you're told that they're short-term (although they've been there for over two years - even with IR35). At my last permanent position a contractor had already been there for two years before I joined and was there when I left three years later. The truth is, they don't appear on the P&L - they're not part of the headcount. So they can show it as a "real cost-saving" because they can reduce headcount (or "people" as we like to call them). It's unfair but perfectly acceptable practise. I am now a contractor because I can't find full-time work. I can, however, find a contract at twice the money. Strange that, isn't it. Hang on, I'm getting a nose-bleed on my high horse.

Reckitts by any chance !!

there is a job fair in hull city hall on the 30th of september for anyone unemployed

full time, part time and season work aswell

Shame more of these layabout pj wearing to go to the shops (what's all that about btw??) Don't have your attidude single perent with 3 kids hats off to you girl well done!

well done on getting a job

as someone said earlier...if people are forced by the jobcentre you cant do everything for them...even though we at a4e try. I have been told by a client that they will not work have no intention of doing anything at all and are at a4e "under duress"...this person had not worked in 30 years or more and obviously didnt want to work. I personally have never been out of work since i was 19 and never will. there are jobs like greencore which i have done and would do again should the need arise just to remain employed. i worked in zone 3 of greencore for the agency for minimum wage just to make sure i was working!!! so for those who say they cant get work...its what you are willing to do at the end of the day

Stop his dole money/benefits then. See how he manages.

my thoughts exactly. the job i'm in at the moment is ok i guess, not my dream job and we get grief off the customers but at the end of the day it pays my bills and if i ever became unemployed i would work in maccy d's, retirement homes, factories...anything to get some money and pay my way!!!

That is the problem, some people actually get more when claiming benefits, so why would they stand all day on a production line to be worse off ?

We have a winner! As I said earlier on the thread some layabout last week openly said its to easy to claim money I get 300 a week & I could not get a job that pays that much! The whole system is crazy!

Yup, thanks almost entirely to the socialist government we've had for the past 12 years. The welfare state is now totally out of control.

Guess those big bad Tories will have to put it right.

i thinks its disgusting how much unemployed people get...imo the unemployed should do community service till they find work...at least then they would "earn" their dole. if i were unemployed i would do it at least i would have some pride and honour. i put this to the clients and 100% said they would refuse point blank. As for the fella i mentioned who has not worked for 30 years....i have dismissed him lol

There is now way a conservative government would let the welfare state get as big as it is now. Besides the minumum wage was supposed to combat the benefit culture, but all its done is increase marginal wages and employer costs and at the same time the benefit culture.

The party who cuts these payments to the layabouts will get my vote.



BTW think i'd sooner have Castro than Cyclops Brooown.

This was on the news this morning:
[url=http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/politics/6088261/Two-million-people-have-never-worked-Tories-reveal.htmlTwo million people have never worked[/url

A bollox claim and a bollox article to go with it.

Tory propoganda



They do fail to point out that most of them are what the last tory administration did by forcing people off unemployment onto long term sick, incapacity benefit.

This Government

has stopped long term incapacity benefit to new claimants and is about to tackle the old claimants.

Its just differing ways each of the two tory parties we have in power at different times of presenting the figures to us.

2 million have never worked?...the thing is when i was unemployed when i was 18 i had to prove each week what i had done to find work and they would check. they even put me on bridging allowance as i could not prove it beyond a reasonable doubt one time and that was 15 quid a fortnight!!!

i swore then and there i will never sign on again in my life no matter what.

i dont see how they get a 2 million figure though...are they including children lol

It's just a headline, no coroboration of the facts in the article.