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| Quote ="hull smallears"A chief execs primary role is spin. Not saying I agree with it, but that is why he is there.'"
Disagree, a chief exec primary role is to lead the organisation. The Comms manager that we have is responsible for the spin thus not damaging our chief execs intergrity.
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| Quote ="Kosh"What exactly did you expect him to say? We're $hit and we know we are? He couldn't respond with anything else without publicly undermining Agar.
Anyone expecting any revelations from this type of show doesn't understand the rules that operate.'"
Which is sort of what I was getting at. Why do we need the show?
Agree with the point about Agar too. Why aren't the programme editors sifting out questions about tactics etc. Nothing to do with James and he shouldn't be put in the position of having to avoid answering.
When does Hudgell's show start on Blunderside?
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| Quote ="Big Dave T"Disagree, a chief exec primary role is to lead the organisation. The Comms manager that we have is responsible for the spin thus not damaging our chief execs intergrity.'"
I would say it depends on the industry. The MD is there essentially to lead most organisations in the operation of the business. The Chief exec is there to paint a very rosy picture, whilst beating those below him
As regards Hull and our industry, I personally am unsure about JR, but to expect him to go on the radio and slag us off is a little foolhardy IMO
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| Quote ="hull smallears"I would say it depends on the industry. The MD is there essentially to lead most organisations in the operation of the business. The Chief exec is there to paint a very rosy picture, whilst beating those below him
As regards Hull and our industry, I personally am unsure about JR, but to expect him to go on the radio and slag us off is a little foolhardy IMO'"
I dont expect him to go on the radio and slag us off, no one does. But we do expect him to not try to B*ll us and at least treat us fans with an ounce of respect. Theyve been gash as a team. If he cant admit that instead of saying 5 out of 7 repeatedly then he shouldnt even go on the show. We arent daft.
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| Quote ="Chris28"Which is sort of what I was getting at. Why do we need the show?'"
We don't need the show, but when we didn't have our CE on and another nearby club did, there were whinges about it.
Personally I'd rather JR stuck to interviews or came on occasionally with Agar, but the club are in a no win situation.
Quote ="Chris28"Agree with the point about Agar too. Why aren't the programme editors sifting out questions about tactics etc. Nothing to do with James and he shouldn't be put in the position of having to avoid answering.'"
Yup. Although apparently that's all the club's fault as well.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"Rule's met with Alan Johnson, who's written (again) to the Home Secretary and is asking for a meeting with her.'"
She'll be to busy with her hubby and dodgy expenses, plus unfortunately the aftermath of the G20 to be bothered about rugby.
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| Quote ="Chris28" Why aren't the programme editors sifting out questions about tactics etc. Nothing to do with James and he shouldn't be put in the position of having to avoid answering.'"
Don't think either radio station operate any sort of screening process TBH.
Quote ="Chris28"When does Hudgell's show start on Blunderside?'"
Doesn't need to when he's got Gwilym Lloyd to provide commentary on the Cockayne CC TV footage as "a bit naughty"/"not very nice".
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| Quote ="Big Dave T"He goes on the show and cant tell us the truth thus undermining himself. He should give these things a wide berth if he cant go on and be truthful.'"
What 'truth'?
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| Quote ="Kosh"What 'truth'?
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That we've played garbage and will be lucky to get a victory Friday. That Agar has made numerous coaching errors etc etc.
I dont want to hear him simply state that weve won 5 from 7 to cover up the fact that were poor. He needs to stay away from the media for me currently.
The way he drove away from the stadium of Friday i would have imagined he would have had far worse to say about our performance etc.
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| Quote ="Big Dave T"I dont expect him to go on the radio and slag us off, no one does. But we do expect him to not try to B*ll us and at least treat us fans with an ounce of respect. Theyve been gash as a team. If he cant admit that instead of saying 5 out of 7 repeatedly then he shouldnt even go on the show. We arent daft.'"
FWIW I agree completely with you, just saying he is never gonna do it, it would be someone elses resposibility. Agar I would have said. Rule needs to spin it to make it sound that all is not unwell. You know how it works, its sad but fact.
Like I said, I agree with you, it would be great to hear, but proably not ever gonna happen. If it did not last season FFS, it won't this!
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| Quote ="Big Dave T"That we've played garbage and will be lucky to get a victory Friday. That Agar has made numerous coaching errors etc etc.
I dont want to hear him simply state that weve won 5 from 7 to cover up the fact that were poor. He needs to stay away from the media for me currently.
The way he drove away from the stadium of Friday i would have imagined he would have had far worse to say about our performance etc.'"
You have unrealistic expectations. The world just doesn't work that way.
The slot was probably booked weeks ago when we were riding high, or possibly even before the season started. If he'd pulled out it would immediately have started rumours about all not being well at the club and/or a rift with Agar. Guaranteed.
IMO he did what any decent CE would have done in the circumstances - damage limitation. Bear in mind he is responsible to shareholders and will also be aware that sponsors will be listening.
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| Quote ="Kosh"You have unrealistic expectations. The world just doesn't work that way.
The slot was probably booked weeks ago when we were riding high, or possibly even before the season started. If he'd pulled out it would immediately have started rumours about all not being well at the club and/or a rift with Agar. Guaranteed.
IMO he did what any decent CE would have done in the circumstances - damage limitation. Bear in mind he is responsible to shareholders and will also be aware that sponsors will be listening.'"
I know how the world works Kosh thanks! My expectations are reasonable if the organisation was run in a professional manner. (in this instance we should have said what could and could not be discussed if they couldnt pull out as you suggest above)
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| Quote ="Big Dave T"I know how the world works Kosh thanks! My expectations are reasonable if the organisation was run in a professional manner. (in this instance we should have said what could and could not be discussed if they couldnt pull out as you suggest above)'"
Whatever.
There are many more things to get upset about our current situation than an unimportant appearance by the CE on a radio show. It was nowt and some of the overreactions to it have been laughable TBH.
And folk would still have complained just as loudly if the club had vetoed certain questions.
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| Did Rule say "grade A licence"?
I need it for a full house on bull $h!t bingo
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| Quote ="Hull Kingston Convicts"Did Rule say "grade A licence"?
I need it for a full house on bull $h!t bingo'"
did you have Faithful fans on your card?
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| Quote ="Hull Kingston Convicts"Did Rule say "grade A licence"?
I need it for a full house on bull $h!t bingo'"
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| Quote ="Kosh"There are many more things to get upset about our current situation than an unimportant appearance by the CE on a radio show. It was nowt and some of the overreactions to it have been laughable TBH.'"
Though not at all unexpected.
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| Quote ="Big Dave T"That we've played garbage and will be lucky to get a victory Friday. That Agar has made numerous coaching errors etc etc.
I dont want to hear him simply state that weve won 5 from 7 to cover up the fact that were poor. He needs to stay away from the media for me currently.
The way he drove away from the stadium of Friday i would have imagined he would have had far worse to say about our performance etc.'"
What about the player errors, do you want him to mention those
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| So am I right in thinking some people on here expect the CE to come out on a radio show and criticise the coach and his tactics? Seriously?
FWIW we have played some good rugby this season and scored some very good trys. That has fallen away in recent weeks, mainly down to the application of the players IMO.
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| Quote ="Robbo4"So am I right in thinking some people on here expect the CE to come out on a radio show and criticise the coach and his tactics? Seriously?
FWIW we have played some good rugby this season and scored some very good trys. That has fallen away in recent weeks, mainly down to the application of the players IMO.'"
Take a bow son
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| Quote ="Robbo4"So am I right in thinking some people on here expect the CE to come out on a radio show and criticise the coach and his tactics? Seriously?
FWIW we have played some good rugby this season and scored some very good trys. That has fallen away in recent weeks, mainly down to the application of the players IMO.'" We have played some OK rugby. We have played a couple or out of form teams and got results.
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| Quote ="joetwizzy"We have played some OK rugby. We have played a couple or out of form teams and got results.'"
You dont think we've played some good stuff this season? Particularly in the game at Home to Cats and Away at Bradford? I'd like to see us attack from our own half more but I'm not sure we have the players to do it because it seems every time we try we cough the ball and then go into our shells. When we have been winning the forward battle and had good field position we have played some decent stuff and scored some very good trys. Unfortunately the effort from the players has dropped off in recent weeks so we have been limited in what we can create.
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| Quote ="Robbo4"So am I right in thinking some people on here expect the CE to come out on a radio show and criticise the coach and his tactics? Seriously?
FWIW we have played some good rugby this season and scored some very good trys. That has fallen away in recent weeks, mainly down to the application of the players IMO.'"
I listened to the show last night and cant believe some peoples reactions!
Paul King was sat next to Rule, why wasnt the questions about recent form aimed at him? He is one of the squad and indeed played in the last 2 game!!!
Surely he is better qualified to answer the question regards team performance.
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| Quote ="Robbo4"So am I right in thinking some people on here expect the CE to come out on a radio show and criticise the coach and his tactics? Seriously?
FWIW we have played some good rugby this season and scored some very good trys. That has fallen away in recent weeks, mainly down to the application of the players IMO.'"
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| Quote ="Robbo4"You dont think we've played some good stuff this season? Particularly in the game at Home to Cats and Away at Bradford? I'd like to see us attack from our own half more but I'm not sure we have the players to do it because it seems every time we try we cough the ball and then go into our shells. When we have been winning the forward battle and had good field position we have played some decent stuff and scored some very good trys. Unfortunately the effort from the players has dropped off in recent weeks so we have been limited in what we can create.'"
Yep - more effort required. SL is too close a competition to be deciding which games to put 100% in and which don't matter, as we have found out recently.
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