Have to agree about Houghton, Berro's our best player and is an 80 minute man, don't just wack Houghton on the bench to accomodate him do it for the good of the team.

I think you're letting your dislike of them cloud your judgement TBH.

Still, as you say, we'll see at Easter.

Thorman is the guy supposedly to get us round the park, Horne is a supporting stand off whos never been an organisational halfback no matter what the fat McRae thought. Were not goin to win many games with one organiser on the pitch and its twice as hard if the one weve got is far too often hit n miss.

Thought Thorman was poor with ball in hand apart from the kick for Halls try and the kick downfield in the 1st half, Horne was very quiet, never got a break all night.

A good scrumhalf takes the game by the scruff of the neck. Unfortunately we dont possess one at the club.

You have just proved yourself a worthy successor to rover49, as official 'No1 rovers W@nker' on this board! Well Done!! You just concentrate on supporting 'FC's Poor Relations' sunshine!!

Didn't think there was much between them TBH, apart from some very good kicks from Thorman in the first half.

Thorman plays on the left and Horne on the right. That's how our halves play. Thorman nipped to the right hand side and created Hall's try but we need more from both.

Didn't Thorman create the Hall try ? Can't remember anything creative from Horne whatsoever orr any breaks. Neither were good but Thorman was better and more influential.

I think we started like a house on fire in the forwards and caught a few teams cold but we deserved the wins because we'd put in the hard work in pre-season. The concerning thing is we seem to be getting worse rather than better. If we're going to make the play-offs, this and last week's games are the ones where we need to be grinding out the wins but we lacked the ideas and defensive urgency in both games bigtime.

No need for insults, any team can lose. Dont be bitter, every team loses eventually. As for poor relations? we'll see.

He did, although it wasn't anything that special IMO. That's why I said I didn't think there was much between them - both not up to the required standard this week.

Then again, neither had a great many options to work with. The pack struggled to make yards and our off-the-ball running was almost non-existent.

Yup. Also, Thorman doesnt pick our side and set our tactics does he? Thought Jon Sharp did that?

it's hard to criticise the halves if you play so much one out football, seemed to me the half backs only really saw any ball as the fifth tackle approached and that's not enough.

I'm sure the conditions dictated the game plan but hull got sucked into it in the middle and couldn't change as the game progressed until too late and the hairy's did what they always do, grind out an unpretty win, no surprises there for me.

I agree, the halves were playing to a set game plan.

End of the day there was very little between both teams and a 40/20 kick probably tipped in in the end!

Disappointed in our lack of plan B though.

seconded

A Kirk Yeaman poor defensive play and a 40/20, as well as 78 other minutes of lethargy.

Far from bitter sunshine! Remember I support Hulls Biggest and Best Supported Professional Rugby League team, where as you.......Don't! Your allegiance lies with our 'Poor Relations' in The East and I pity you! Hence your misguided attempts at 'Humour' on this board!

TBF Dave both teams set their stall out to play those conditions which were obviously very tough.

Our bench really baffles me and this is an area that we could have won the game - in hindsight, which is a wonderful thing!

was disappointed with our plan A tbh

shouldve come out, all guns blazin against a very understrength quins side carryin all sorts of knocks etc.

leeds went there a couple of years back in exactly the same conditions, came out, slung the ball anout and won 60 nil. Quins wouldve gone after 3 quick tries tonite cos their fitness wouldve caught up with them, instead they kept goin on adrenalin cos they had a sniff of the game, fair play to them.

Doesnt matter who we would have brought of the bench playing 5 drives and kick constantly when we have such a dangerous back line. Im not asking for hugely expansive cos of the conditions but a couple of times may not be bad, just to vary things a little.

Not sure about the dangerous back line but I think it shows a lack of confidence in our expansive passing skills to be honest. Never asked Quins any questions at all out wide which was very disappointing. Only Manu looked dangerous (again).

Didnt you just get turned over by a team who had lost 5 from 5?

No scrum half can take the game by the scruff of the neck,

IF the forwards are out-muscled,out-enthused, cant break a tackle
and not aggressive in defence.

Best players on view tonight were Manu and Hall.- IMHO

Great reply! Obviously lost for words eh sunshine!

If you look at Hall, Calderwood, G Horne, Yeamo and Briscoe they can all score tries. We just dont given them the ball. I'd class that as dangerous!