Look at the best team in the comp, Leeds. They have 1, 6, 7, 9 and 13 who can all create for them and it seems to work. I take your point but most teams will play us and think lets just stop Long and we stop Hull. Horne has been misfiring, Tansey is a great prospect but still has to fulfill his potential and Berrigan has been a bit hit and miss. Having an extra option can only be a good thing and Washy can also be used as a battering ram too. Although maybe for the first 2/3 games using Fitz at 13 might be a good option due to heavy pitches.

Whiting, Turner, Radders or re-sign G Horne

just from seeing him at the rovers game he brings more creativity and a better running game , rather than just a ram imho

I'd be more worried if/when things go wrong and Agar persists with the same tactic and team. We have scope and depth to change the dynamics of the team with the signing we've made this season . There's no excuse to plod on and pick the same 17 week in week out.. unless it's a winning team.

Agreed he broke the line by running a good angle and also almost put Longy in with a nifty offload. Far more to his game than just battering.

Afraid to say I agree with Hutchie in that Fitzgibbon brings so much more to the looseman role than we have seen for a few years, certainly more than a battering ram approach. I even thought that when Radford re-appeared to spell Fitz against HKR that he looked like he had taken on a new lease of life in that position and was prepared to try more than last season. Leeds are a special case in my view, the quality they have is frightening as you didn't even mention Eastwood, but I struggle to find another team with the same options. Agar has to make sure he puts the square pegs in the square holes and if that means Washy misses out then so be it.

Not sure about creativity, he does off load the ball well though and is intelligent so will offer more at 13 than radford did who is more of a plodder.

I'd just have liked Agar to make a real statement with his first selection, Washy at 13, lots of impact on the bench with Moa and send out a message about how we want to play. Maybe he has picked a team for this game only, i'd have preferred us to be a bit more bold and have a more attacking line up.

But if we get the right result who cares!

Whiting and Tuner are options although I think Washy has more potential than either of them.

Problem is Paul, BOLD and ATTACKING are not in Agars vocabulary, Dowes, Radford and Cusack are all exactly the same type of player, Moa should have been in the 19 at least.

Mrs B is right in fact it could now just be a strain but waiting to see before anything said, however I think on this occassion it is genuine, not risking him!

Washbrook has a very high workrate and his defence is excellent. Easily offers as much at LF as fitz for me. Balance of teh squad is poor really with far too many 2nd rowers, which means he's going to be continually leaving good quality players out in 1 position and playing reserves in others

I tell you this, if we see 5 drives and a kick against St's then I know a hell of a lot of people that will be saying get rid of Agar immediately, the majority that I know have no faith in him as it is,

Agar said on radio on Wed it would probably be horses for courses this week, so I was expecting a defensive line up. I think he'd already made up his mind to play Turner at centre but Whitings form was putting him in a quandary. Think Hall would have been omitted but for Calders injury.

Washbrook will get the fourth bench spot ahead of Houghton. He had a spell at hooker in the Rovers game and can cover more positions.

Hope we see a more attacking line up when the dryer grounds come.

Even for me it's too early to be calling for him if we lose or lauding him up if we win on Saturday.

Ultimately, I just want to be enjoying watching Hull FC again. If I can do that then I'll be happy. Anything else will be a bonus

I agree, after 5 games is the time to start judgement, unless he does stupid things/interchanges again.

Surely this new superstar assistant coach of yours will be having some influence on the structure of play?

Poor decision if he does. Washy isn't a hooker for me and he needs to be picking players in their proper positions unless form and injury dictate otherwise

Hopefully

I guess FC fans are going to bed tonight safe in the knowledge that they will at least get in the KC for the Huddersfield match without having to overcome an administrative cock up, and knowing our franchise and finances are the most secure in SL.

he hasn't manage to get it right in all the time he's been coach so far, why should we expect any different.

Well St Helens had Cunningham, Long, Pryce and Wellens, and when fit Sculthorpe at Loose Forward as attacking pivots, so why shouldn't we do the same by having Washbrook as loose forward?

well, according to some, When Jon Sharp was having an input, we won the first 5 games, then agar spat is dummy, Sharp was sent to coventry and the rest is there for all to see

Maybe he's read "The idiot's guide to Rugby League Coaching" in the off season. Or maybe it was all Jon Sharp's fault

Probably no influence at all then lol

When your own club is anywhere near as successful as ours, come back and comment.

But they are Standee, didn't you know that them winning more games than us last year makes them the bigger club? Our A grade licence, operating at a profit, greater attendances and greater number of passholders means nothing