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| Briscoe even came up with a try saving tackle on the other side of the field last night. Great player who will be missed
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| Agree with the Hall argument, his size makes him such a good finisher as he is hard to get in touch...... but apart from that... His size and pace should mean he is unstoppable but he goes missing in a lot of games and does very little work IMO.
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| Quote ="WormInHand"I could almost feel the frustration from him osmosing though the rain into the east stand'"
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"Briscoe even came up with a try saving tackle on the other side of the field last night. Great player who will be missed'"
Don't think half our fans even realise what we have with him. Best outside back we've produced for nearly 30yrs, beyond my yrs of supporting. We are wasting him more this yr than ever before. Lineham is great, but he's big strong fast n has good attitude. Briscoe is although not massive, squat, fast, long range but more so accelerating from nothing, tremendous footwork, strength that defies his size, agility and pure instinct.
Some bells shouting 'prove you wanna play for us'. This to 1of the league's top tacklebusters n metres makers who's being started of ball!!
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| Quote ="airliebird,runninglate!"Don't think half our fans even realise what we have with him. Best outside back we've produced for nearly 30yrs, beyond my yrs of supporting. We are wasting him more this yr than ever before. Lineham is great, but he's big strong fast n has good attitude. Briscoe is although not massive, squat, fast, long range but more so accelerating from nothing, tremendous footwork, strength that defies his size, agility and pure instinct.
Some bells shouting 'prove you wanna play for us'. This to 1of the league's top tacklebusters n metres makers who's being started of ball!!'"
I'm sure we won't miss him with crookes taking his place next year
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| The thing with briscoe is we all know what he as in his locker and how much potential he has , but surely even his biggest fans must admit he's not shown hardly anything this season . Not saying he's not trying but not a patch on previous seasons . On his day he's a world beater and unplayable but at the minute them games are very few . Sad to see him go but crookes as impressed me every time I've seen him so on this seasons performances won't be as bigger loss as I'd have thought .
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"I'm sure we won't miss him with crookes taking his place next year'"
I've liked crooks a lot but Briscoe he isn't. Gonna need another wing. Can't just run with 2
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| Quote ="FC-Steward"The thing with briscoe is we all know what he as in his locker and how much potential he has , but surely even his biggest fans must admit he's not shown hardly anything this season . Not saying he's not trying but not a patch on previous seasons . On his day he's a world beater and unplayable but at the minute them games are very few . Sad to see him go but crookes as impressed me every time I've seen him so on this seasons performances won't be as bigger loss as I'd have thought .'"
Mate he's still top 4 tackle busts n metres in the league with no ball n rubbish field position most of the yr. Can you honestly name a time last night he received a remotely attacking pass? Can you honestly say had he been playing right side there are any tries lineham has scored that Briscoe wouldn't have?
Could play anyone on that left at the moment and they'd struggle to look good
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| We'll miss Tom Briscoe massively. Anyone who suggests otherwise is either lying or just trying to underplay his departure.
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| Quote ="airliebird,runninglate!"Mate he's still top 4 tackle busts n metres in the league with no ball n rubbish field position most of the yr. Can you honestly name a time last night he received a remotely attacking pass? Can you honestly say had he been playing right side there are any tries lineham has scored that Briscoe wouldn't have?
Could play anyone on that left at the moment and they'd struggle to look good'"
Not for one minute saying he's rubbish or past it but sometimes they can be misleading . I'm judging him on current form and what I see with my eyes . He's definatly lacking something to previous seasons . I'm sure he's always been in the top 4/5 of tackle busts and metres but he's always had more to his game then he's showing now . Maybe lack of ball but he also seems to be taking it in less on the first or second tackle .
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| Quote ="FC-Steward"Not for one minute saying he's rubbish or past it but sometimes they can be misleading . I'm judging him on current form and what I see with my eyes . He's definatly lacking something to previous seasons . I'm sure he's always been in the top 4/5 of tackle busts and metres but he's always had more to his game then he's showing now . Maybe lack of ball but he also seems to be taking it in less on the first or second tackle .'"
As a team we've been dire most the yr n we've gone from being an 80%attack to the left team(his side) to 80%right so no doubt any winger would look down on form he there service had been cut in half n your restricted to carting from dummy half under pressure off a slow play of the ball!
Hopefully holdsworth will return n bring a little more balance to the attack and the weather will come good(which suits Tom s game)
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| Quote ="airliebird,runninglate!"As a team we've been dire most the yr n we've gone from being an 80%attack to the left team(his side) to 80%right so no doubt any winger would look down on form he there service had been cut in half n your restricted to carting from dummy half under pressure off a slow play of the ball!
Hopefully holdsworth will return n bring a little more balance to the attack and the weather will come good(which suits Tom s game)'"
Maybe that's because we aren't getting nothing out of the left side . Why else would we go right after all the success we've had with the left .
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| Briscoe is not same player for few reasons. He is a heavily marked player.
Just look amount of defenders he attracted in the Wigan game.
2nd he doesnt get enough of the ball . Only time time he does is when he picks up from acting half. In a better structured team he would do far better
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| Quote ="FC-Steward"Maybe that's because we aren't getting nothing out of the left side . Why else would we go right after all the success we've had with the left .'"
We're going right because that's where Horne is playing. It's got nowt to do with a lack of confidence in Briscoe.
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| Oh ok Peter
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| Quote ="knockersbumpMKII"Personally i don't think Hall is anything except a finisher, an exceptional one but there is nothing else to his game that makes him stand out, I'd have charnley above Hall myself. Lineham is going to be better, maybe that is why he/she was laughing..or maybe they really think hall is the greatest winger ever and Lineham won't hit the heights..who knows'"
I'd say your criticism of Hall is inaccurate, but pretty much a perfect description of Charnley, so it seems odd to me that you rate Charnley higher.
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| I'd say Lineham has at least earned a shirt that fits him!
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| Hall is without doubt the best English winger around, can't understand anyone not able to see that.
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| Quote ="PAUL M"Hall is without doubt the best English winger around, can't understand anyone not able to see that.'"
I have to agree some of his finishing is brilliant especially the ones against Warrington how he got them 2 tries i dont know.
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| Completely disagree with those saying all Hall can do is finish. He is unbelievably good at getting Leeds on the front foot and 90% of the time either gets a penalty or a quick play the ball. Agree with whoever said about his hair though.
As for Lineham and Crooks they have both been getting better all the time, only 1 thing that can frustrate me slightly about crooks is he doesn't seem to be able to get on the outside of opposite centre (like Watkins can) but may come with age and it's a personal preference of mine. He more than makes up for it when he goes inside the centre and the lines he runs and his rugby brain.
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| Quote ="PAUL M"Hall is without doubt the best English winger around, can't understand anyone not able to see that.'"
BnW bias i'm afraid.
Hall plays for Leeds but we can still say what a fantastic player he is.
As is Sinfield imho.
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| Hall i feel is better then charnley but Lineham will be better then both
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| Hall
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Without a doubt imo. Charnley is really good but the worst out of the three. With Briscoe been the only one who is capable of producing something special out of nothing just like he did against Leeds last season at home.
Neither of the other two could have done that.
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| its actually nice to have so many good english wingers regardless of what club they play for. its wasnt so many years ago GB had richard horne and leon pryce on the wings
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| hey don't be surprised about ben crooks becoming a world class international in next few years ... he has a bloodline of lee crooks and a bit of Knocker Norton and you wonder why he is a natuallly gifted rugby player !!!. he will be Ok if he avoids injury and uncle and dads drinking ability !!!!!!
Crooks and lineham have the potential to be international. Its great to see the investment in youth coming through already. Gentle is doing an excellent job with local talent and youth and Mr pearson now backing our club with a first class development facilities to ensure we reach same level of local player development into club as other top clubs.
it may not be this year but if we can get a world class SH for next year look out for some silverware in next years
club is in very good hands now with requisite investment to progress to top 2 ..just give it a year or two. worth waiting for after previous regime stagnation of 5 years !!
come on you hull
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