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| I don’t think it’s easy to offload players
It’s an idea - a suggestion - a hint at some of the baggage we’re still carrying
The truth is that some swap deals would interest Salford - they will still need full time professionals albeit on lower salaries
Let’s see what happens but fwiw
I’d love to see us replace Lane Fash and Sao, and the sooner the better
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| [quote="Tarquin Fuego":1cx6b8is]I don’t think it’s easy to offload players
It’s an idea - a suggestion - a hint at some of the baggage we’re still carrying
The truth is that some swap deals would interest Salford - they will still need full time professionals albeit on lower salaries
Let’s see what happens but fwiw
I’d love to see us replace Lane Fash and Sao, and the sooner the better[/quote:1cx6b8is]
I can't see lane or fash leaving. I'm pretty sure they'll get new deals. Sao will come off the quota for 2026 so depends what kind of season he has but he's our 2nd best prop IMO, just needs to sort out his discipline which should be better if he and the rest of the team are fitter anyway. Also will be played solely at prop hopefully as he's not mobile enough for 2nd row
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| [quote="Jake the Peg":gwaagr3a]I can't see lane or fash leaving. I'm pretty sure they'll get new deals. Sao will come off the quota for 2026 so depends what kind of season he has but he's our 2nd best prop IMO, just needs to sort out his discipline which should be better if he and the rest of the team are fitter anyway. Also will be played solely at prop hopefully as he's not mobile enough for 2nd row[/quote:gwaagr3a]
I'm hoping that under Cartwright we see an improved version of Sao this season. On his day he can be a very good player. He just needs to focus on running straight and hard and not looking for an offload every single tackle. But mainly get his discipline sorted. I got the feeling last year a lot of his poor discipline and errors where through frustration over the teams poor displays (which yes, will be argued his errors and penalty's were contributing to). I think he was just trying to force plays or Big hits a bit too much to swing momentum or get something going. Like everything with the team last year, it just wasn't coming off. Big year coming up for him if he wants to earn a new deal, either at Hull or elsewhere.
I'm also willing to give Lane another year before totally giving up in him. There's a player in there and if Cartwright has improved fitness and conditioning he will be one of the lads to see a big benefit.
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| [quote="Hasbag":4sb34qkx][quote="Jake the Peg":4sb34qkx]I can't see lane or fash leaving. I'm pretty sure they'll get new deals. Sao will come off the quota for 2026 so depends what kind of season he has but he's our 2nd best prop IMO, just needs to sort out his discipline which should be better if he and the rest of the team are fitter anyway. Also will be played solely at prop hopefully as he's not mobile enough for 2nd row[/quote:4sb34qkx]
I'm hoping that under Cartwright we see an improved version of Sao this season. On his day he can be a very good player. He just needs to focus on running straight and hard and not looking for an offload every single tackle. But mainly get his discipline sorted. I got the feeling last year a lot of his poor discipline and errors where through frustration over the teams poor displays (which yes, will be argued his errors and penalty's were contributing to). I think he was just trying to force plays or Big hits a bit too much to swing momentum or get something going. Like everything with the team last year, it just wasn't coming off. Big year coming up for him if he wants to earn a new deal, either at Hull or elsewhere.
I'm also willing to give Lane another year before totally giving up in him. There's a player in there and if Cartwright has improved fitness and conditioning he will be one of the lads to see a big benefit.[/quote:4sb34qkx]
Agree, for me every players that still here for 2025 gets a clean slate and a chance to prove themselves and rightly earn any further deals. The fall out of not just last season but the previous seasons and articles that we have seen this off season about how unprofessional and understaffed things where before takeover has without doubt been a big contributor to what we saw play out on the field.
Under a Head Coach that is disciplined and structured in his messages and the whole set up given a root and branch overhaul then its suggests that improvements will be made. Its now up to those players to show that they are not poor players without the frustrations.
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| Could we just not pay Sao off if we wanted a quota player?
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| [quote="dandaman":29iyc0c1]Could we just not pay Sao off if we wanted a quota player?[/quote:29iyc0c1]
It's a very dangerous game to just keep paying players off.
We need to be careful or players won't want to come or think it's an easy ride, sign a 3 year deal don't perform and get a nice pay off.
Some players we had no choice, no sure Sao warrants it, as Jake says he is a decent prop on his day. Like been mentioned above, everyone gets a clean slate, off the field has a total shambles last year.
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| Will we still be looking for another prop? Gone very quiet on that front
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| [quote="Hullfc-white":3nedidnn]Will we still be looking for another prop? Gone very quiet on that front[/quote:3nedidnn]
I'd expect a mid-season signing on the Prop front, unless we try to get Bullock from Salford.
I imagine getting Cross and possibly Sneyd over the line will be the current priority.
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| [quote="dandaman":245w2xw7]Could we just not pay Sao off if we wanted a quota player?[/quote:245w2xw7]
If there is a lack of available domestic players for 2026,
i can see quota players who immediately become off~quota, be in high demand.
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| Bower now implying Leigh are the front runners to get Sneyd
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| Lam, Sneyd, Ipape and Armstrong will be one hell of spine for Leigh.
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| As said a couple of days ago, I'm ok not signing Sneyd, something didn't feel quite right and had a Fonua type feel about it.
Gives Balmforth a chance to show us what he can do and earn a new deal.
OK with Cust and Seizer, but any injury and we are in trouble, as both have had issues in the past, not confident with those two playing most of the season.
Could keep an eye on the market and see if anyone comes up, but not easy without a quota spot.
Was hoping we would make a play for Pryce, but nothing reported anywhere.
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| Loved Sneyd at Hull but he would be an expensive short term signing. Get cross onboard and give cust shirt.
If Morgue hasn’t signed for rovers yet, I’d try hijack that by getting him in now.
1. Rapana/ Moy
2. Briscoe/Martin
3. Cross/ chamberlain
4. Hardaker/litten
5. Barron/ Martin
6. Cust/Moy/Kemp
7. Sezer/Charles
8 ese’ese/ Ashworth
9. Borough/Balmforth
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12. Lane/ Staveley
13. Asiata/ Fash
14. Ashworth/salabio
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16. Aydin/ Fash
17. Holmes/ Staveley
My gut says our 17 looks something like this with a rough back up for each position.
Definitely weak in front row and definitely a risk with Cust till we’ve seen if we’re getting Wigan or Salford cust. It’s an improvement on last year and a nice reliance on youth.
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| [quote="Dave K.":2h20u948]As said a couple of days ago, I'm ok not signing Sneyd, something didn't feel quite right and had a Fonua type feel about it.
Gives Balmforth a chance to show us what he can do and earn a new deal.
OK with Cust and Seizer, but any injury and we are in trouble, as both have had issues in the past, not confident with those two playing most of the season.
Could keep an eye on the market and see if anyone comes up, but not easy without a quota spot.
Was hoping we would make a play for Pryce, but nothing reported anywhere.[/quote:2h20u948]
Feel the same to be honest Dave re Sneyd, it very rarely pans out well when going back particularly after doing well first time around. As you say it's not going to be easy to find a quality half at this time of year and thats non quota.
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| But do agree it would be a cracking signing for Leigh and one that puts them in the too 6 again.
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| [quote="Hullrealist":3ngxwav2]Loved Sneyd at Hull but he would be an expensive short term signing. Get cross onboard and give cust shirt.
If Morgue hasn’t signed for rovers yet, I’d try hijack that by getting him in now.
1. Rapana/ Moy
2. Briscoe/Martin
3. Cross/ chamberlain
4. Hardaker/litten
5. Barron/ Martin
6. Cust/Moy/Kemp
7. Sezer/Charles
8 ese’ese/ Ashworth
9. Borough/Balmforth
10. Sao/ Aydin
11. Cartwright/ Holmes
12. Lane/ Staveley
13. Asiata/ Fash
14. Ashworth/salabio
15. Balmforth/Moy
16. Aydin/ Fash
17. Holmes/ Staveley
My gut says our 17 looks something like this with a rough back up for each position.
Definitely weak in front row and definitely a risk with Cust till we’ve seen if we’re getting Wigan or Salford cust. It’s an improvement on last year and a nice reliance on youth.[/quote:3ngxwav2]
Moy and Martin are going to busy in that second team
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| I would have been happy with Sneyd for a year but no more than that and I guess he'd be unwilling to move across country for a matter of months.
Lets see how we get on with Cust and Sezer and hope we are lucky with their fitness.
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| Cust has proven to be quite an important signing for us in hindsight.
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| [quote="Windy winger":qedvz1yc]Moy and Martin are going to busy in that second team[/quote:qedvz1yc]
They’re probably just first line back up for those positions, I’d like to hope we dont lose briscoe, Barron, Rapana, Cust and Borough/ Balmforth all in one go
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| [quote="Hullfc-white":3kv3dnuu]https://www.loverugbyleague.com/post/salford-red-devils-player-sales-to-begin-as-huge-salary-cap-reduction-order-revealed[/quote:3kv3dnuu]
They've had it
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| Says they’re “prohibited from registering players for the upcoming season.”
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| [quote="Hullfc-white":8y3tg503]https://www.loverugbyleague.com/post/salford-red-devils-player-sales-to-begin-as-huge-salary-cap-reduction-order-revealed[/quote:8y3tg503]
"Salford also say that they will arrange a meeting with the local Council when they return from their festive break to discuss how to maximise revenue opportunities off the back of the new stadium deal, creating another urgently-needed cashflow avenue."
Must be an incredible new stadium deal, just how much are they planning to make off Bar sales with their low crowds?
Big failure from IMG, the franchise system was an opportunity to demote them, all the players contracts would be null and void and likely a lot of the diehard support would have kept going in the Championship. Toulouse or Bradford could have had their turn in the SL sun instead.
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| The big question is how have Salford been able to get away with such a very poor business plan in spending what they simply haven’t got or been guaranteed with the so called IMG & RFL scrutiny and auditing.
Unless they get a serious takeover they are screwed. Feel bad for the players, staff and fans as their club have dropped them and buried them in a huge hole.
Serious questions need to be asked about the governing body & IMG and their inability to do auditing. If they’d been audited thoroughly and correctly then they should have been removed from SL end of last season & replaced, this isn’t something that’s just happened over night.
Really is worrying times for the game in this country when it’s run by amateurs.
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