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| KCFM said Reece Lynne was tackled late.
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| Quote ="flezmundo"Ref really lost his bottle tonight big time, bad game but weather didnt help the kick from tickle pure class!'" i said the same with 30 mins left. i Guessed we was a few pens in front and i could see we was never going to get anymore out of him and said he would level the count up and it sure looked like he was trying to. Didnt want to start a thread off on how bad the ref was coz i guessed it was probably as bad for both teams in the end
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| Looked like a very late tackle to me.
The referee was shocking. Yes, i know, yadda yadda yadda but how many times did we get pinned (rightly) for not square? And how many times did they get pinned for not square?
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| J Childs the new Gansom( but slimmer), RFL 's new blue eyed boy!!!
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| Lyne was definitely cleaned out after kicking through. 20 yards further back from where Tickle took the penalty, mind.
The game should not have been close enough for them to get back in it, though, Yeaman should be ashamed of himself tonight. 4 points in front, fullback bearing down, options either side, and he puts himself before his team. Berrigan could and should have had a trot to the line under the sticks.
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| Said on RH 'Penalty given from where ball finishes' - also said an FC player moved it further on and then a Crusaders player moved it further still!
But what do they know.
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| Quote ="carl_spackler"Lyne was definitely cleaned out after kicking through. 20 yards further back from where Tickle took the penalty, mind.
The game should not have been close enough for them to get back in it, though, Yeaman should be ashamed of himself tonight. 4 points in front, fullback bearing down, options either side, and he puts himself before his team. Berrigan could and should have had a trot to the line under the sticks.'"
the penalty is given from were the ball lands when a player is fouled after kicking through
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| Quote ="carl_spackler"Lyne was definitely cleaned out after kicking through. 20 yards further back from where Tickle took the penalty, mind.
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Penalty is awarded where the ball lands or where the defender fields it.
The interesting issue here is the penalty was for a late challenge on the kicker and that is a mandatory sin-binning for the offending player - so Crusdaers should have had a player binned at the end.
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| Broke my vow since Agar's contract renewal tonight and attended a home game. I'm delighted we scraped home but for me we simply saw the difference between a side that employs a head coach and one that doesn't. On paper we should have blown crusaders away but (leaving his poor reaction to a very dodgy decision aside) Noble creates a synergy within his team whereas as usual we contrive to be less than the sum of our parts. Plenty will say 'a win's a win' and all that, but how anyone can think we'll trouble Wigan, Warrington, Leeds and even Saints when it really counts is beyond me, we'd need a Head Coach to be in with a chance of that happening.
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| Multiple thanks, got caught up in the Radio Humberside comments and completely forgot about that rule.
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| Quote ="carl_spackler"Lyne was definitely cleaned out after kicking through. 20 yards further back from where Tickle took the penalty, mind.
The game should not have been close enough for them to get back in it, though, Yeaman should be ashamed of himself tonight. 4 points in front, fullback bearing down, options either side, and he puts himself before his team. Berrigan could and should have had a trot to the line under the sticks.'"
Lyne had a man on him and Berro would not have scored from that position imo, Yeaman did the right thing hanging on to it.
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| Quote ="Uncle Junior"Broke my vow since Agar's contract renewal tonight and attended a home game. I'm delighted we scraped home but for me we simply saw the difference between a side that employs a head coach and one that doesn't. On paper we should have blown crusaders away but (leaving his poor reaction to a very dodgy decision aside) Noble creates a synergy within his team whereas as usual we contrive to be less than the sum of our parts. Plenty will say 'a win's a win' and all that, but how anyone can think we'll trouble Wigan, Warrington, Leeds and even Saints when it really counts is beyond me, we'd need a Head Coach to be in with a chance of that happening.'"
Same old record eh. We did not play well with ball in hand but defended well, conditions were terrible but we got the two points. Every side you mentioned has won ugly this season.
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| Quote ="PAUL M"Same old record eh. We did not play well with ball in hand but defended well, conditions were terrible but we got the two points. Every side you mentioned has won ugly this season.'"
When have any of the sides mentioned been spanked like we have?
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| Quote ="PAUL M"Lyne had a man on him and Berro would not have scored from that position imo, Yeaman did the right thing hanging on to it.'"
Berrigan had an infinitely better chance than Yeaman, I can't possibly agree with you there. Yeaman had a man between him and the line, Berrigan didn't. He may have been caught, we'll never know, but what is now a cast iron fact is that Yeaman was not in a position to score and somebody else potentially was. The correct option was the inside ball, absolutely no question.
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| Quote ="carl_spackler"Berrigan had an infinitely better chance than Yeaman, I can't possibly agree with you there. Yeaman had a man between him and the line, Berrigan didn't. He may have been caught, we'll never know, but what is now a cast iron fact is that Yeaman was not in a position to score and somebody else potentially was. The correct option was the inside ball, absolutely no question.'"
To be fair the player in front of Yeamo took the dummy and he would have scored had the winger (I think) not come across and tackled him from behind.
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| Quote ="Uncle Junior"Broke my vow since Agar's contract renewal tonight and attended a home game. I'm delighted we scraped home but for me we simply saw the difference between a side that employs a head coach and one that doesn't. On paper we should have blown crusaders away but (leaving his poor reaction to a very dodgy decision aside) Noble creates a synergy within his team whereas as usual we contrive to be less than the sum of our parts. Plenty will say 'a win's a win' and all that, but how anyone can think we'll trouble Wigan, Warrington, Leeds and even Saints when it really counts is beyond me, we'd need a Head Coach to be in with a chance of that happening.'" We saw what a top coach he was ,,The best dummy spit out that I have seen from a grown man ..Any person should be big enough and man enough to except decisions like that
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| Quote ="Robbo4"To be fair the player in front of Yeamo took the dummy and he would have scored had the winger (I think) not come across and tackled him from behind.'"
But again, he therefore ran towards the only 2 players in decent positions to break down the play rather than just make a simple 3 yard pass inside. He took the more difficult, low-percentage, and less beneficial option, for seemingly no other reason than it might have brought him some glory.
I'm a fan of Yeaman, and have defended him many times in the past when he's been criticised for not passing, but tonight's example was inexcusable IMO.
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| Quote ="Uncle Junior"When have any of the sides mentioned been spanked like we have?'"
Saints by us at their place.
Not sure what that had to do with what we were talking about? We could get to the GF and you still complain about Agar, it's the agenda you have, which you are entitled to.
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| Quote ="carl_spackler"But again, he therefore ran towards the only 2 players in decent positions to break down the play rather than just make a simple 3 yard pass inside. He took the more difficult, low-percentage, and less beneficial option, for seemingly no other reason than it might have brought him some glory.
I'm a fan of Yeaman, and have defended him many times in the past when he's been criticised for not passing, but tonight's example was inexcusable IMO.'"
Lynn was being shadowed by 1 player and Berrigan was coverd as well...Yeaman actually looked for Lynn but saw he was coverd and Tried to make something of 2 players being coverd.
As for glory for himself....yeah right,he isnt a team player is he.
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| Quote ="carl_spackler"But again, he therefore ran towards the only 2 players in decent positions to break down the play rather than just make a simple 3 yard pass inside. He took the more difficult, low-percentage, and less beneficial option, for seemingly no other reason than it might have brought him some glory.
I'm a fan of Yeaman, and have defended him many times in the past when he's been criticised for not passing, but tonight's example was inexcusable IMO.'"
I think he was looking for Lyne outside him and did not see Berro until late, Berro was never quite up with the play from what I saw and arrived late at which point Yeaman thought it best to hang on.
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| Quote ="Uncle Junior"When have any of the sides mentioned been spanked like we have?'"
Sts by us.
Wigan by Quins
Leeds have had a couple as well.
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| Quote ="carl_spackler"But again, he therefore ran towards the only 2 players in decent positions to break down the play rather than just make a simple 3 yard pass inside. He took the more difficult, low-percentage, and less beneficial option, for seemingly no other reason than it might have brought him some glory.
I'm a fan of Yeaman, and have defended him many times in the past when he's been criticised for not passing, but tonight's example was inexcusable IMO.'"
I'd have to see it again but if Yeamo didn't think Berrigan would make it to the line then the dummy isn't too bad a play. The player that actually tackled Yeamo was not in his line of sight as he actually came from behind him to tackle him so he could be forgiven for thinking he had a walk in if the FB takes the dummy.
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| Quote ="kt170496"We saw what a top coach he was ,,The best dummy spit out that I have seen from a grown man ..Any person should be big enough and man enough to except decisions like that'"
Agree totally but I did say to leave his conduct tonight aside..care to mount a case that Noble is an inferior coach to Agar?
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| Quote ="fc baldy"Lynn was being shadowed by 1 player and Berrigan was coverd as well...Yeaman actually looked for Lynn but saw he was coverd and Tried to make something of 2 players being coverd.
As for glory for himself....yeah right,he isnt a team player is he.'"
Didn't think Berrigan was covered myself. Only question mark for him was whether or not he'd have been quick enough to make the line. Yeaman never looked like scoring though.
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| Quote ="Robbo4"I'd have to see it again but =#0000FFif Yeamo didn't think Berrigan would make it to the line then the dummy isn't too bad a play. The player that actually tackled Yeamo was not in his line of sight as he actually came from behind him to tackle him so he could be forgiven for thinking he had a walk in if the FB takes the dummy.'"
Agree that was the only issue with it. I just still think that when faced with an opposing player and with a teammate in support, you should have faith in your ally and put him in for a clear run at the sticks.
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