Princess Street?

Showing where princess st was, at a guess, to the left of the "A"

Oh great a zoomed-out, google maps screenshot.

If I was that bothered I could've googled it meself

Seems that Allam in the HDM may lean towards the natural expansion of the stadium with an extra 5000 seats

It says nothing of the sort. It's pure speculation on the journalist’s part.

How's he going to do that if he refuses to speak to the stadium owners? Hopefully his mega dummy spit is going to come back and bite him on his donkey.

Football, Soccer, Association Football, whatever your personal name for it ........ there are records of if being referred to as soccer before football, by 15/20 years.

Personally i've called it Footy, Soccer and Football at one time or another and they are pretty much equally valid in my eyes.

I'd still rather be a fat lad watching some egg chasers by about a million times over

Evening gents, just passing by and though I'd stick my oar in(again).

Soccer is indeed a historic term used to differentiate between rugby football and association football, just as it's used to separate between American football or Ausie rules in other countries now.

It was largely abandoned here, as the two sports were commonly referred to as either rugby or football and soccer became more a term of derision.

As for attendances, the Cardiff game was a sell out, for reasons that escape me, the Safety Advisory Group decided that almost 1,600 seats needed to be left empty. When we were last in the Premier League, pretty much every game was a sell out, just the segregation seats and a shortage of away fans reduced attendances. Though for some reason, for one game against Liverpool, it was decided that just a few hundred seats needed to be used for segregation, so that game ended up setting a record attendance of 25,000.

For next season, 2,500 seats have to be offered to away fans, 2,500 have to be sold as match day tickets and 20,000 can be sold as season tickets(all of those numbers are reduced by about 5% due to segregation). 14,500 season tickets have been sold already and now we've been promoted, I expect we'll sell the rest.

Just thought I'd clarify.

Congratulations on the win.

City "sold" 20,000 tickets for their party this week, well including passholders (12k) it was 20k (so about 8k tickets given away)

6000 turned up for your party, hardly any season tickets turned up

Source: Turnstile staff and police control

cant blame the fans, it was poorly organised and too short notice, plans shouldve been in place weeks before incase city did go up that weekend

allem got this one wrong imo

City didn't sell anything for their party this week, it was free.

It was announced the day before and we'd already been there on Saturday when we were promoted, it was never going to be full. But I quite enjoyed it.

Source: Me.

You talk about 20+ thousand fans, but only 6 Thousand turn up to a FREE party..

If you read muy post, which you quoted you would see i typed "sold"

we know it was free you turnip, still doesnt take away the fact that out of 20,000 who were allowed in to your party only 6000 turned up

I blame the Council for their abject failure to lay on free return bus transport from all over the East Riding

I grew up in the South East and we used soccer and football interchangeably. Never heard soccer used as a term of derision either, and that's certainly not the way I use it.

I think a lot of the problem people have with using soccer now is that it's seen as an American word.

Serious question. What exactly [iis[/i Allam's beef with the council, for him to call them liars and cheats with hidden agendas? As far as I can see, their only crime is not to give him the stadium.

Lots of calls for boths sides to grow up and sit round the olive-laden table, but what's the incentive for the council to do this? They've got nothing to gain so why on earth would they make the running, especially in light of the lastest venom spat at them?

So why does Allam hate them so much? Perhaps Lambrettaman can enlighten us.

Assem's like a slightly bonkers rich uncle, he sometimes comes out with some strange things, but you let him off because he buys you better Christmas presents than everyone else.

He's a very successful man, he's made hundreds of millions and as a consequence he's used to being respected and he normally deals with other successful people. What he's not used to, is dealing with some slightly dim bloke from Orchard Park who's never achieved anything and only gets into office because barely anyone in his ward bothers to vote.

The bloke offered to raise over £100m to improve sporting facilities in Hull(creating the best sporting facilities in North East England) and create thousands of jobs, just so long as the council were willing to give him the site to do it on. It had no downside, it look the responsibility of improving the KC(which generates zero income for the council), improving West Park and improving Hull as a whole, most councils woukd have bitten his hand off.

Ours though, as is their tradition, just see it as some rich bloke trying to get something for nothing, rather that the opportunity that it presented. They're cretins, union men who see success as a threat, rather than an opportunity. It's nothing new, years ago Hull City Council turned down a major car plant, as they thought it would cause problems for wage level on the docks. I wouldn't give Geraghty a job as a cleaner, I suspect that dust could outwit him.

Assem's PR is often terrible and much of what's gone on has been handled very badly, but he's still the man who offered to invest a fortune in this city and it was thrown back in his face. Voters get the politicians they deserve and Hull has an appalling record when it comes to selecting it's politicians, there's only Alan Johson who knows what day it is. Hull is suffering badly at the moment, with our current politicians in charge, I see no chance of that situation improving.

Ask the people of RUSCADOR about that.



It's called democracy, you can't buy what you want.



You will, of course, have links to the detail of that and how the finance was leveraaged?



No downside, apart from him wanting it for nothing, and most Councils, like Hull, would give him short shrift, keep swallowing.

The only cretin here is you, and I thought you said you weren't coming back?

He made a big splash about a "Sporting Village Gif"t in the HDM, it's true.
But it wasn't a gift, it was a property deal, contingent on being given the stadium for nothing for borrowing purposes as a precursor to any fuller discussions, and with plans (costing £3,000, no less) not even being shared.
And it wasn't sporting, let alone "the best sporting facilities in North East England". It had an ice rink. Until it was pointed out there was one already in the city. By the second iteration it transpired it was about supermarkets and boutiques for the "wives" to shop in whilst the husbands attended the games.
I'd be interested on your views of town planning retail capacity in the city and whether the city centre is over subscribed. My opinion is that it is not, that there are enough vacant units and under-utilisation across the many existing shopping centres to preclude granting of further consent to an "edge of centre" development.
The main problem is that there have been no concrete talks, plans or discussions for the council to consider in detail, just some conflicting allusions to massive philanthropy and a dummy-spit. I can totally understand why the council have been cautious. The development goes bust in a retail market sector that's declining due to online growth and the mortgaged stadium is repossessed.

Shhh, scooterboy is recovering from having his gag reflex removed!

scooter man is a total muppet, talks made up things as facts

troll on scooter man

I can't believe I'm actually agreeing with Standee

Must be all that time spent in Egypt.

So, as I thought, it's just because he's a petulant man who's been told "no".

What right has he to potentially libellously call the council cheats and liars with a hidden agenda in the national press? How have they cheated him and what lies have they told him? And what is their hidden agenda?

Referring to people as slightly dim cretins merely because they are working class does nothing for your argument and says lots about yourself. You only have to compare the undignified rants of Allam to the reserved tones of Mr Brady to know who to trust. As Wilf pointed out the other day:


But I guess we should be grateful that your own hysterical rants aren't repeated on here. Taken (unedited, let's see what the swear-filter makes of it) from the City Independent massageboard:



Interesting. 'Loving' began with an f, 'friend' with a c in your original version.

Hmm. Incredibly charming, maybe.

Total and absolute tosh.

Post-WW2 both Ford and GM looked at building a plant on the North Bank (not within the City of Hull boundaries), with a view to the European export market. The main stumbling block was availability of land, all of the suitable sites were owned by Blackburn, Armstrong, Reckitts, Smith & Nephew, Hollis Brothers, Fenners and British Petroleum. It was the employers who were fearfull of another company arriving and potentially driving local wages up. Why would any council object to its citizens receiving enhanced remuneration, when much of that extra money could be spent on council-provided services.

As it was, both Ford & GM realised it was cheaper to buy out existing continental manufacturers or simply build plants over there anyway.

I don't know who your dealer is but he's obviously flogging you something you're not capapble of handling.

I've never had anything removed.

I accept that any Ruscador employee will feel hard done by, over half the staff were made redundant, but such is life. I recently paid £400k in redundancy payments, I'd rather have not made anyone redundant, but sometimes you have no option.

I suspect there's very few on this board who have ever run a substantial business, so I'm not surprised that so many are so suspicious of what's gone before, but I doubt it will keep Assem up nights.