Agree with most things you say.The thing which makes the UK so attractive is our generous benefits system as was pointed out by one of Afghani's as they bulldozed the illegal campsite in Calais.The Dutch had this problem 20 years ago and they have since tightened their system up.The UK is full and we should only take immigrants when we have got our own workshy gainfully employed.

Spot on, as has been said thats easier said than done under the current EU umbrella though.

I'm not biting at that!





Though I must confess, you nearly had me.

So... Back to UKIP!

Most of the immigrants that come here do so to do jobs that people over here can't or won't do. As is usual in these cases, the ill-informed seem to be confusing immigrants with asylum seekers. They also seem to be perpetuating the myth that Gordon is there to meet them off the boat with a sackful of cash.

People become ill informed by listening to silly journalists like Littlejohn

The benefits culture has much to do with this. Without that culture there would not be a need for as many immigrants. Reform of the benefits system would go a long way to solving a number of major problems this country faces.

Ill informed or not, everyone is entitled to an opinion and i'll wager he is more in tune with the majority of people in the UK than most in his profession.

He peddles myths to the feeble-minded. Though, I grant you, there are a substantial amount of people fitting neatly into that category.

That response was so predictable.

Absolutely. In fact some people like Up The Biff confuse illegal immigants with asylum seekers and migrant workers.

The BNP preach the politics of hate and bigotry. It makes my blood boil when people back them as patriots, fogetting that it was the against likes of the BNP that millions died fighting in the last century.

That it was, does not make it inaccurate.

You blame the 'feeble minded' when in reality it is the main stream politicians and parties who are entirely to blame for the rise of bodies such as the BNP and Islam4UK.

Add to that the fact that we are a country built on immigration and it seems even more ridiculous. I reckon a decent percentage of the people who are saying we shouldn't stop or drastically reduce immigration are the children/grandchildren/great-grandchildren of immigrants themselves.

I guess if i failed to influence Europe in my role as PM i would back track and change my view to that of Europe is evil and withdraw from the EU. (thus adopting a UKIP approach to suit me)

Entirely to blame? I am just as exposed to mainstream politics as the next man, but I don't believe the BNP's policies (or Littlejohn's rants) are anything other than ill-informed, fear mongering twaddle.

None that I'm aware of. The free movement of all citizens and the right to work are fundamental to the EU.

Correct, neither does it make it accurate. It makes it an opinion and one i disagree with.

That he probably is, unfortunately most people in britain are complete muppets.

Unfortunately the main stream parties have let this country down with their lies, deceit, greed and corruption. Where these undesirable traits are allowed to fester so the likes of the BNP and others at both extremes of the spectrum take their chance, not believing their own luck so to speak.

And yes you may see it for what it is but this country is now laden with a growing minority of poorly educated and ill disciplined citizens who increasingly look to more radical agendas. And who is to blame for allowing an underclass of this type to proliferate ? I'll give you a clue - it isn't the extremists who have no power to wield.

There is a very good reason for that.

Nobody is forcing anyone to do anything. We [iagreed[/i to allow free entry to the UK for all citizens of an EU country. Likewise, we all have the right to enter another EU country. We also agreed to allow EU citizens to work here, and once again this is reciprocal.

As for financial support...



So in other words they get no more, and often less, financial support while looking for work than any UK layabout who has never got off his/her idle backside and done a day's honest labour. I fail to see the significant difference.

You make out like lies, deceit, greed and corruption amongst politicians is a relatively new phenomenon. It isn't. It has gone on as long as politics itself.

There have always been maintstream parties whose policies or actions have alienated people, and there have always been extremist groups willing to exploit those who are dim enough to believe their lies.

So no personal responsibility whatsoever? We can't expect people to see past simplistic propaganda just because the country has some problems that are not being adequately addressed?

I agree that the rise of extremist fringe groups is fed by dissatisfaction with the main parties and by a sense of alienation fed by the media, but at the end of the day you can't absolve individuals from responsibility for the opinions that they hold and the actions that they perform.

Indeed. The famous story of the 1990s was that when Michael Howard (Hecht) was Home Secretary, the laws on immigration that he pushed through would have prevented his own parents from coming to the UK while fleeing persecution in Romania.