He did unfortunately and it was poor. I think the point he was trying to make was that players were jumping out of the line and trying to fix a problem that wasn't there, but to single put just Wynne was poor.

Reynolds has gone and now he goes after his lad

Has he lost the dressing room ?

Lost the dressing room or just totally out of his depth, take your pick.

We are heading for a massive financial hit if he is still in charge for next season which I'm sure he will be given Pearson seems to have blind faith in him.

We've asked the same question about our last 3 or 4(?) coaches. It does beg the question is the coach the problem or the core of players who have been here all that time?
Although I think only Houghton and Taylor are left from that group now which does make the continuing same problems all the more baffling.
Maybe its both. Not sure anyone has the answers.

Is it also a lack of backroom coaches that's the problem rather than just blaming the head coach? When you compare us to Wigan, saints, Leeds etc, they seem to have far more backroom staff, assistants, physios, conditioners etc whereas I've felt we always seem to do it on the cheap with a minimal number of staff so probably over stretching our coaching staff...isn't that why Watson rejected us? As Pearson wouldn't let him being in his staff?

We have one benefactor, he’s been superb, those other clubs are have numerous cash sources presumably.

It may be the wrong thread to place this post but I genuinely believe that the hierarchy at the club is unbalanced and to be honest short staffed.

For me, Wigan are a great template of how to manage the club on the pitch. Head coach (Peets), a genuine assistant (Briers) and a head of rugby (Wane). All three bring different and positive attributes to the table. It has produced silverware already and I think they could on their day edge Saints come end of the season.

Now lets compare that to what Hull have, Hodgson, I don't doubt his knowledge and appreciate his commitment to the cause, but its his first dig as a Head Coach at a club he really doesn't know. At least Peets for Wigan knew the club inside out from the minute he took the roll. The there is Purtell. I struggle to think what he actually could offer, he seems more like a trainer then an assistant coach. Doesn't seem to have any real authority over anything to do with the club. At least with Briers he has the charisma and his reputation from his playing days to aspire the players. You could argue that Ellis could do the same for us, but again, it doesn't seem to have had much impact.

The biggest point of these is Head of Rugby, well, that's the point, we don't have one. We have an inexperienced head coach in probably one of the toughest jobs in the league and he has nobody to turn to. The closest thing we have to one is our CEO James Clark. I again struggle to see what he could bring to the table when it comes to coaching or anything to do with on field issues.

The Club is absolutely desperate for a change up in the hierarchy of the club, a Head of Rugby with experience of the game and one who isn't afraid to help in making tough choices. The obvious option is Tony Smith and it isn't one id say no to. If Pearson is serious in sticking with Hodgson's process then he has to give him some support in the background. There must be something there for AP to still seem to back Brett, so go out there and make sure it works or the club could find itself in serious trouble.

Good coaches don’t always have to have their “own” players to have an affect. Agar always used that excuse here.

Wigan and Saints don’t have a massive turnover of players every time someone new takes over.

Macguire only added Deacon to a Wigan squad, that then went on to win a Grand Final.

Both in my opinion. Even Dan said the players are throwing the coach under the bus. He said everyone to blame but certainly wasn't to kind about the players. Good read again from Dan. My main gripe with Hodgson he knows the players who are letting the team and supporters down. Just drop them and say why. I know we have injuries but it's the same players. Lane. Houghton. Taylor. Gale. You can add more but there the main culprits IMO. The body language of those is blooming awful

Rohan Smith at Leeds has turned things around considerably too without much change in personnel. If you have to wait until a coach gets their own team then there's no point attending for two years until the team is "their own". We had it with Gentle, Radford and now Hodgson...waiting for them to get their own team, the next coach can't be given two more years to clear out Hodgsons team and get their own team , the fans patience will have worn out long before then.

I have a little sympathy for Hodgson in that his scope for dropping players has been so limited with injuries and bans and ultimately he is battling for his job so I can understand the reluctance to drop a senior player for a youngster.
That said I think the fans would welcome it now tbh. We can't realistically make the playoffs or get relagated so its now time to make a point.
With Sao back on Friday I'll be disappointed if Taylor plays.
Laidlaw should play and be used as a genuine interchange not a token 20 mins at the end.

Brett would gain more credence playing as many kids as possible now, we have nothing but a mathematical (if we even have) chance of the six, this mob needs a taste of reality.

Excellent post, every successful sports team I can think of has somebody who oversees signings, talent identification and contractual issues.

What the hell does Adam do? He's been around for a LONG time and Shane Richardson was an excellent head of rugby.
Adam has the time to do this role! He could lean on Gaz Ellis - Shenton etc
Gaz may not be a great coach but he knows the game inside out.

We just need world class coach - simples.

Thank you, one of my biggest frustrations of the club and particularly with AP is that he is happy to throw money about at players yet when it comes to coaching and backroom staff etc we seem to do it on a shoestring. Hate to use Rovers as an example but their two previous coaches have being Tony Smith and Tim Sheens. If they can persuade that calibre of coaches then surely we can?

Neither really world, Apart from one covid hit season did Rovers improve under Smith, not great with youth and signings very hit and miss.

I think you are being a bit harsh. Admittedly neither pulled up many trees but TS did get us back into SL and more importantly kept us there, no other coach has achieved that in recent years. Yes last year was a Covid hit season but to go from relegation candidates to 80 minutes from the Grand Final was a real achievement.

I think one of the main differences between the two clubs regarding their head coaches is that Rovers have identified a problem and relatively quickly dealt with it. FC on the other hand have either not identified a problem or have been aware of issues and let things drift on.

Quote ="Dave K."Can't seem to get Hodgsons post match interview to work, but I;ve read on social media that he called out Wynne absolutely awful if he did and didn't name any other players, he is a 21 one year old kid, Ok he had a poor game, but not many didn't and a lot more senior players on a lot more money had just a bad a game, not fair to pick on one player'" here https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/p0ct20dv

Quote ="Dave K."Can't seem to get Hodgsons post match interview to work, but I;ve read on social media that he called out Wynne absolutely awful if he did and didn't name any other players, he is a 21 one year old kid, Ok he had a poor game, but not many didn't and a lot more senior players on a lot more money had just a bad a game, not fair to pick on one player'" here https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/p0ct20dv

Sorry to briefly hijack your board with discussion of Rovers ex-coaches but.

TS1 - fulfilled his brief. Petered out quite badly in 2019, but overall a successful appointment. I’ve probably been Jamie Peacock’s biggest critic but he got that one right.

TS2 - really weird mixed bag. Much better appointment, in prospect, than I expected, he did/achieved some things I really liked… and some I really didn’t. One on the hardest-to-make-sense-of head coaching tenures we’ve had.

Both still sacked and now you have followed our model by appointing an NRL assistant who has never coached first team (and was sacked by one club for fighting). You may be in a similar position to us next season if the gamble doesn't pay off.

I reckon St Helens would still finish in the top 3, at least, if coached by Brett Hodgson or Willie Peters next year… and the year after that etc.

I don’t think Hull or Rovers would have much chance of reaching the GF next year or the year after if coached by Kristian Woolf.

Yes, as I said, issues identified and dealt with.

Not all inexperienced coach appointments fail. Smith at Rhinos has had an immediate impact. New coaches can only become experienced if given the opportunity. Coaching is no different to playing in that respect.

Recognising when things are not working and taking action that is the key. Almost two years in post with no impoverished in performance and poor signings that is what Mr Hodgson has brought to the table so far.

I agree and now our coach is picking up his unwanted players.
I know which coach i would back to make the right decision on releasing players and which i wouldnt back on recruitment given what we have seen already.Cant name one that has made any impact on the field

Maybe not but team development takes time. Look what Tony Smith did at Rhinos. A Champioship after was it 20 years? Other coaches were then able to build on that.

All appointments are a risk. Inexperienced people may thrive in a new environment. Successful people are not always able to repeat that success at a new club. Again that applies to both coaches and players.

Appointments are made they are either successful or not successful what identifies a good people manager is how they deal with the success or failure.