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| Quote ="UllFC"Posted on the Rovers board that is concerning that a few years ago the Derby was contested by quality NRL/International players like Dobson, Newton, Galea, Fitzgibbon, O'Meley and Tom Briscoe...whereas now apart from a few exceptions its a ragtag bunch of castoffs and unknowns on both sides.
as much as seeing Rovers suffer would be amusing, I'd rather see both teams at the KC contesting a 'top8' derby where both have the chance to make the top4 playoffs in a sell-out ground....than see them both in the 'middle 8' gradually getting worse and worse.
both sides have got to hope that the next generation of youngsters are good, because the days of big name Aussies & Kiwi's coming to improve a side are long-gone.'"
Personally I hope Rovers are relegated next year and we go back to a single pre-season derby again.
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| Quote ="ComeOnYouUll"Personally I hope Rovers are relegated next year and we go back to a single pre-season derby again.'"
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| Quote ="HFC Boy"Last night was brilliant . It is always great to win a derby . The nilling was extra special .
We can bask in the glory for now .
In the context of SL both sides are way off breaking into the top 4 .
Last night was a " City of Hull " RL Cup final . For SL it was a lower league clash that even Sky ignored.
Bragging rights are ours for now . I will enjoy it .
Then I look at the league table and see the real picture.
I apologise if being a realist is deemed by many on here as being negative .
12th place is not acceptable . Do you all think the players and Coaching staff think it is ? No !!
They would echo my sentiments .
As I say , sorry to upset people with my opinion. l love Hull FC with a passion and I will not accept this seasons mediocrity .
Last night was fantastic within the City limits of Hull .
Outside of those boundries in the SL 2014 had been unacceptable'"
Last night was great but it will soon be forgotten if we lose badly to Huddersfield and Leeds. I'm not expecting us to win either but I hope we will turn up and really compete with them and use last night to try and build something for next season. However if we get hammered it will be back to square one.
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| Quote ="ComeOnYouUll"Personally I hope Rovers are relegated next year and we go back to a single pre-season derby again.'"
Disagree, last nights game is the biggest money spinner of the year for the club by some margin. Money we can't afford to turn down.
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| Quote ="HFC Boy"Last night was brilliant . It is always great to win a derby . The nilling was extra special .
We can bask in the glory for now .
In the context of SL both sides are way off breaking into the top 4 .
Last night was a " City of Hull " RL Cup final . For SL it was a lower league clash that even Sky ignored.
Bragging rights are ours for now . I will enjoy it .
Then I look at the league table and see the real picture.
I apologise if being a realist is deemed by many on here as being negative .
12th place is not acceptable . Do you all think the players and Coaching staff think it is ? No !!
They would echo my sentiments .
As I say , sorry to upset people with my opinion. l love Hull FC with a passion and I will not accept this seasons mediocrity .
Last night was fantastic within the City limits of Hull .
Outside of those boundries in the SL 2014 had been unacceptable'"
Don't disagree with any of that. Just saying it's odd to be so vocal about every aspect of our shortcomings on a regular basis, yet on a night we deliver a hammering to the team that feature in your sig, all you comment on is their trade-up at halfback.
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| Quote ="ComeOnYouUll"Bonaire blames Radford for last night's win.'"
Don't be such an idiot
We all want to win and the club to do well but if you actually watched the game its painting over the cracks.
lots of effort and aggression which forced a very poor performance from HKR.
Some good individual performances as has been said and Heremaia pepped us up a lot when he was on the field.
Joint MOTM for me was Ellis and Watts.
The attack is still dire but you obviously don't see that when your excited
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| Disgusting as I am I've really enjoyed the last three home games.
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| Quote ="bonaire"We all want to win and the club to do well'"
I suspect the side you wanted to win last night actually lost.
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| Quote ="bonaire"Don't be such an idiot
We all want to win and the club to do well but if you actually watched the game its painting over the cracks.
lots of effort and aggression which forced a very poor performance from HKR.
Some good individual performances as has been said and Heremaia pepped us up a lot when he was on the field.
Joint MOTM for me was Ellis and Watts.
The attack is still dire but you obviously don't see that when your excited'"
What he meant was Bonaire chooses to select a leaving player as pivotal on order to create a negative on a rare very good night for the club.
No one is saying this result is meaningful in the context of SL this year. But if you can't allow yourself to enjoy the performance last night and the following week, and reflect on quite a few positives, what's the point in being a "fan"? Exclusively complaining when we win and when we lose is just [upointless[/u.
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| Quote ="bonaire"Don't be such an idiot
We all want to win and the club to do well but if you actually watched the game its painting over the cracks.
lots of effort and aggression which forced a very poor performance from HKR.
Some good individual performances as has been said and Heremaia pepped us up a lot when he was on the field.
Joint MOTM for me was Ellis and Watts.
The attack is still dire but you obviously don't see that when your excited'"
Attack wasn't dire, in fact we were pretty clinical at times and had it been dire we wouldn't have scored 5 try's. It certainly wasn't amazing, but you might have noticed the weather wasn't great and that would have had a big impact plus next season we will have two new halfs that should improve our attack.
I certainly think there are reasons to be positive about next season after watching our last three home games, recruitment and the young players coming through.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"What he meant was Bonaire chooses to select a leaving player as pivotal on order to create a negative on a rare very good night for the club.
No one is saying this result is meaningful in the context of SL this year. But if you can't allow yourself to enjoy the performance last night and the following week, and reflect on quite a few positives, what's the point in being a "fan"? Exclusively complaining when we win and when we lose is just [upointless[/u.'"
Enjoyed the night and the result but take off the rose tinted glasses.My negativity is not about the club or the Chairman its always been about the coach and how he has taken the club backwards.
If you want to be part of the Cuddle Crew sheep on here that's fine by me but all I posted earlier were positive meaningful comments about the effort,desire and individual performances, and how I thought Heremaia pepped us up when on the field.
I agree I said we were dire in attack again which is true.We scored 5 tries but when you look at the amount of ball HKR coughed up and our 85% completion against their 50% or so we should have scored a lot more.
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| Who are these cuddle crew, these people that are happy with the way things are going?
I don't see hardly any people on here sticking up for Radford, most in fact gave serious doubts about his coaching ability.
The big difference is they don't go on about it in every single thread, he will be here next season, our Owner who has saved our club from big trouble has told us many times, so why not try and get behind him and the club abpnd see his he does next season.
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| Quote ="bonaire"Enjoyed the night and the result but take off the rose tinted glasses.My negativity is not about the club or the Chairman its always been about the coach and how he has taken the club backwards.
If you want to be part of the Cuddle Crew sheep on here that's fine by me but all I posted earlier were positive meaningful comments about the effort,desire and individual performances, and how I thought Heremaia pepped us up when on the field.
I agree I said we were dire in attack again which is true.We scored 5 tries but when you look at the amount of ball HKR coughed up and our 85% completion against their 50% or so we should have scored a lot more.'"
We SHOULD have scored more points but we played the weather as well,last time we played in conditions like that was at Wembley with "better halfs" and look what happend there.I have serious doubts about Radford but he is going to be here next season with the half back pairing to convert the possesion into pts.If he can get them playing like last night consistently then that will do me me...if he doesn't ,then he deserves the sack,so instead of slagging everything off,why don't you back the team.
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Quote ="bonaire"Enjoyed the night and the result but [utake off the rose tinted glasses.[/uMy negativity is not about the club or the Chairman its always been about the coach and how he has taken the club backwards.
If you want to be part of the Cuddle Crew sheep on here that's fine by me but all I posted earlier were positive meaningful comments about the effort,desire and individual performances, and how I thought Heremaia pepped us up when on the field.
I agree I said we were dire in attack again which is true.We scored 5 tries but when you look at the amount of ball HKR coughed up and our 85% completion against their 50% or so we should have scored a lot more.'"
Not wearing any. Last night was really good and it and its context is well and impartially described here:
www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/sport/ru ... -1-6813676
This is not about cheerleading, it's about recognising and enjoying a moment in time. If you choose to let potential failure next week/ year dominate your your mindset, that's your prerogative, but you cheat yourself out of today's fun. Plenty of time to mither about that soon enough. Being a fan is about common and shared enjoyment, in part. To nil Rovers for the first time since 1957 with a brutal defensive display and an icing-on-the-cake effort by Lineham at the end was really enjoyable. Meaningless as it may be in the context of a season, it was still fun, right? If you can't enjoy nights like last night, what's the point?
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Quote ="bonaire"Enjoyed the night and the result but [utake off the rose tinted glasses.[/uMy negativity is not about the club or the Chairman its always been about the coach and how he has taken the club backwards.
If you want to be part of the Cuddle Crew sheep on here that's fine by me but all I posted earlier were positive meaningful comments about the effort,desire and individual performances, and how I thought Heremaia pepped us up when on the field.
I agree I said we were dire in attack again which is true.We scored 5 tries but when you look at the amount of ball HKR coughed up and our 85% completion against their 50% or so we should have scored a lot more.'"
Not wearing any. Last night was really good and it and its context is well and impartially described here:
www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/sport/ru ... -1-6813676
This is not about cheerleading, it's about recognising and enjoying a moment in time. If you choose to let potential failure next week/ year dominate your your mindset, that's your prerogative, but you cheat yourself out of today's fun. Plenty of time to mither about that soon enough. Being a fan is about common and shared enjoyment, in part. To nil Rovers for the first time since 1957 with a brutal defensive display and an icing-on-the-cake effort by Lineham at the end was really enjoyable. Meaningless as it may be in the context of a season, it was still fun, right? If you can't enjoy nights like last night, what's the point?
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Quote ="Mrs Barista"Not wearing any. Last night was really good and it and its context is well and impartially described here:
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This is not about cheerleading, it's about recognising and enjoying a moment in time. If you choose to let potential failure next week/ year dominate your your mindset, that's your prerogative, but you cheat yourself out of today's fun. Plenty of time to mither about that soon enough. Being a fan is about common and shared enjoyment, in part. To nil Rovers for the first time since 1957 with a brutal defensive display and an icing-on-the-cake effort by Lineham at the end was really enjoyable. Meaningless as it may be in the context of a season, it was still fun, right? If you can't enjoy nights like last night, what's the point?'"
Well said Mrs B,
You can only live for the moment, as anything in the past is unchangeable, the old saying is you're only as good as you're last game.
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www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/sport/ru ... -1-6813676
This is not about cheerleading, it's about recognising and enjoying a moment in time. If you choose to let potential failure next week/ year dominate your your mindset, that's your prerogative, but you cheat yourself out of today's fun. Plenty of time to mither about that soon enough. Being a fan is about common and shared enjoyment, in part. To nil Rovers for the first time since 1957 with a brutal defensive display and an icing-on-the-cake effort by Lineham at the end was really enjoyable. Meaningless as it may be in the context of a season, it was still fun, right? If you can't enjoy nights like last night, what's the point?'"
Well said Mrs B,
You can only live for the moment, as anything in the past is unchangeable, the old saying is you're only as good as you're last game.
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| Last night was probably the most I've enjoyed a game since Cardiff 2005.
The tackling and the errors they forced was great to see.
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| Quote ="davey37"Last night was probably the most I've enjoyed a game since Cardiff 2005.
The tackling and the errors they forced was great to see.'"
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| Quote ="Legends and Icons"Last years semi final against wire was another good one'"
Our cup final last night was defo up there with the best of them, & we dinted krs hope of play off footie!
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"We could all go back months and find people's opinions are proven wrong. Personally, I don't think either are good enough for a half decent SL team but signing a player who has played a decent number of NRL games is less of a risk than signing an unknown like rankin. FWIW, burns was also gash last night but isn't as we know'"
Yes, we could. I just found it ironic that in preseason you were bemoaning us 'missing out' on him and getting Rankin and using it as a stick to beat the club with (seemingly on the strength of Keating playing in a grand final once), yet now he's so bad you're surprised we didn't sign him.
By the way, plenty said at the time that we were right not to go for him as he was/is a good hooker but no half. The flip side of Keating playing more games in the NRL being less of a risk is that there was more evidence that he was/is not what we need.
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| Quote ="carl_spackler"Yes, we could. I just found it ironic that in preseason you were bemoaning us 'missing out' on him and getting Rankin and using it as a stick to beat the club with (seemingly on the strength of Keating playing in a grand final once), yet now he's so bad you're surprised we didn't sign him.
By the way, plenty said at the time that we were right not to go for him as he was/is a good hooker but no half. The flip side of Keating playing more games in the NRL being less of a risk is that there was more evidence that he was/is not what we need.'"
I don't think I ever said that we should have signed keating but that on the face of it they had recruited better. I've not seen anything in rankin other than enthusiasm and a bit of pace to suggest he's really any better than keating but I hope he's a lot cheaper. I certainly didn't use it as a "stick to beat the club with" (other than in your mind seemingly). My comment on keating was tongue in cheek and a reference to our continued failure to sign a decent half back (including miller and rankin IMO) but obviously you've mislaid your sense of humour somewhere which is understandable for a Hull fan this year.
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| l really like rankin as i feel he's got the skills to be a very good s.l player.i know i few people not 100% happy with pryce but really hoping rankin can learn alot from him and when he does get his chance grabs it.hoping he might turn out to be a micheal withers (bradford bulls grand final winner) type of player were not many knew alot about him when he first arrived and although he was always solid he just seemed to get better and better to the point of a massive player for them.its olso nice to see a player who enjoys playing and feeds off the fans.only a small thing but when he was waiting for a kick off in first half he gestured to fans to lift it and they responded.little things like that can some-times have a domino effect.i had total apathy for fridays derby (first time ever) but after seeing how pumped up the team was i was up and down like a jack in the box craving a win like it was a 1st v 2nd clash.i remember chico and brian blacker doing simialr things years ago and although niether were world beaters i loved them for that passion and the fact i felt they made you feel we had carried them to the next level to get the win
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| Quote ="bonaire"Enjoyed the night and the result but take off the rose tinted glasses.My negativity is not about the club or the Chairman its always been about the coach and how he has taken the club backwards.
If you want to be part of the Cuddle Crew sheep on here that's fine by me but all I posted earlier were positive meaningful comments about the effort,desire and individual performances, and how I thought Heremaia pepped us up when on the field.
I agree I said we were dire in attack again which is true.We scored 5 tries but when you look at the amount of ball HKR coughed up and our 85% completion against their 50% or so we should have scored a lot more.'"
The problem with the constant and at times inane Radford battering is that when the team performs fairly well as it has in the last three home games it's still Radford coaching them. So we have a situation where when the team loses badly it's all his fault but when they win he gets no credit whatsoever. That isn't balanced and totally devalues any argument you have. I suspect you're a troll though so that needs factoring in as well.
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| Quote ="Staffs FC"The problem with the constant and at times inane Radford battering is that when the team performs fairly well as it has in the last three home games it's still Radford coaching them. So we have a situation where when the team loses badly it's all his fault but when they win he gets no credit whatsoever. That isn't balanced and totally devalues any argument you have. I suspect you're a troll though so that needs factoring in as well.'"
look at the league table then give us all your balanced view on Radfords performance as coach
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| Quote ="bonaire"look at the league table then give us all your balanced view on Radfords performance as coach'"
I've given my balanced view many times. How do you account for Hull's form in their last three home games bearing in mind Radford has been in charge ? How do you explain the fact that we're able to play well with Radford coaching us ? KR Troll.
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| Quote ="Staffs FC"I've given my balanced view many times. How do you account for Hull's form in their last three home games bearing in mind Radford has been in charge ? How do you explain the fact that we're able to play well with Radford coaching us ? KR Troll.'"
Well I have not seen your balanced view so maybe you would like to inform us all again
my concern is not about the last three homes games when there was little to play for but pride,its the previous twenty two.
KR troll definitely not couldn't be further from the truth.in any case if I was surely I would appear on the KR forum? have you seen any post from me on there?
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