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| Quote ="wigan_knight"Dont forget Fielden and Tommy'"
Im guessing that all your rumour signings come true over in wigan then? Heard your signing yeamo?? Hmmm!
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Quote ="kevl84"he didn't take performance enhancing drugs. This is what makes me laugh when people call him a "drugs cheat" It was cocaine, not steroids or performance enhancers. He just fell foul of the tough stance that RL takes with any drugs being taken.
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Sorry but you're wrong, cocaine has been found to relieve symptoms of fatigue & improvement of reaction time within a 2 hour window. If it were taken pre match then clearly performance enhancing Yes the overall effect would be detrimental but the immediate effects are clear from a medical/physiological POV.
So yes Hock was a drug cheat, whether that was his intention or not to improve his performance.
Check it out for yourself www.nhtsa.gov/people/injury/rese ... cocain.htm
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Quote ="kevl84"he didn't take performance enhancing drugs. This is what makes me laugh when people call him a "drugs cheat" It was cocaine, not steroids or performance enhancers. He just fell foul of the tough stance that RL takes with any drugs being taken.
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Sorry but you're wrong, cocaine has been found to relieve symptoms of fatigue & improvement of reaction time within a 2 hour window. If it were taken pre match then clearly performance enhancing Yes the overall effect would be detrimental but the immediate effects are clear from a medical/physiological POV.
So yes Hock was a drug cheat, whether that was his intention or not to improve his performance.
Check it out for yourself www.nhtsa.gov/people/injury/rese ... cocain.htm
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| Looks like we where is for Hock and maybe even close to signing him.
Spending big on a backrow foward is not our priority IMO, although would have been happy with him signing.
I wouldn't have wanted him on a 5 year deal, massive risk for Wigan, in fact I wouldn't sign any players on that lenght of contract.
Hopefully we will here some news on recruitment internal and external very soon.
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| Quote ="Dave K."
Hopefully we will here some news on recruitment internal and external very soon.'"
Next time we lose
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Quote ="knockersbumpMKII"Sorry but you're wrong, cocaine has been found to relieve symptoms of fatigue & improvement of reaction time within a 2 hour window. If it were taken pre match then clearly performance enhancing
Yes the overall effect would be detrimental but the immediate effects are clear from a medical/physiological POV.
So yes Hock was a drug cheat, whether that was his intention or not to improve his performance.
Check it out for yourself www.nhtsa.gov/people/injury/rese ... cocain.htm'"
Hardly - try reading the whole article...
[i"Faster reaction times and diminished effects of fatigue have been observed. Improvements were greatest in behaviorally impaired subjects (e.g. sleep deprived, fatigued, or concurrent use of ethanol) and [u least improvements were observed in well-rested, healthy subjects.[/u"[/i
So if he took to the field knackered and drunk, it would have helped him a bit.
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Quote ="knockersbumpMKII"Sorry but you're wrong, cocaine has been found to relieve symptoms of fatigue & improvement of reaction time within a 2 hour window. If it were taken pre match then clearly performance enhancing
Yes the overall effect would be detrimental but the immediate effects are clear from a medical/physiological POV.
So yes Hock was a drug cheat, whether that was his intention or not to improve his performance.
Check it out for yourself www.nhtsa.gov/people/injury/rese ... cocain.htm'"
Hardly - try reading the whole article...
[i"Faster reaction times and diminished effects of fatigue have been observed. Improvements were greatest in behaviorally impaired subjects (e.g. sleep deprived, fatigued, or concurrent use of ethanol) and [u least improvements were observed in well-rested, healthy subjects.[/u"[/i
So if he took to the field knackered and drunk, it would have helped him a bit.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"Quota.
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FITZ AND LUAKI OUT OF CONTRACT...I WOULDNT PUT ANYTHING PAST OUR BOARD TO BE HONEST...
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| Quote ="talulah"Hardly - try reading the whole article...
[i"Faster reaction times and diminished effects of fatigue have been observed. Improvements were greatest in behaviorally impaired subjects (e.g. sleep deprived, fatigued, or concurrent use of ethanol) and [uleast improvements were observed in well-rested, healthy subjects.[/u"[/i
So if he took to the field knackered and drunk, it would have helped him a bit.
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You do realise the bit you've underlined, made bold and put a sarcastic emoticon about does actually state there is an improvement in well rested, healthy people don't you? Albeit not as much as in others, but still an improvement. Therefore, performance enhancing.
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| Well Freddie L Wigan stuck by Gaz Hock and he's come thru it, unlike Tez Newton when the RFL did nothing and look what happened to him, also Hull offered Hock more money than Wigan!! strange isn't it when you already have signed 3 players during the super league season you must have a bigger cap than the rest of us!!
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| Quote ="Sunshine state"Well Freddie L Wigan stuck by Gaz Hock and he's come thru it, unlike Tez Newton when the RFL did nothing and look what happened to him, also Hull offered Hock more money than Wigan!! [size=150strange isn't it when you already have signed 3 players during the super league season you must have a bigger cap than the rest of us!![/size'"
Compare our two squads, player for player, and then decide which players would demand the higher wages!!
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| Quote ="Sunshine state"Well Freddie L Wigan stuck by Gaz Hock and he's come thru it, unlike Tez Newton when the RFL did nothing and look what happened to him, also Hull offered Hock more money than Wigan!! strange isn't it when you already have signed 3 players during the super league season you must have a bigger cap than the rest of us!!'"
We've just employed your old accountant
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| Quote ="Sunshine state"Well Freddie L Wigan stuck by Gaz Hock and he's come thru it, unlike Tez Newton when the RFL did nothing and look what happened to him, also Hull offered Hock more money than Wigan!! strange isn't it when you already have signed 3 players during the super league season you must have a bigger cap than the rest of us!!'"
We also had 2 relatively high earners (1 being one of the clubs top earners) removed from our cap pre season and another out on loan!!
What's your point??
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| Quote ="Neil HFC"You do realise the bit you've underlined, made bold and put a sarcastic emoticon about does actually state there is an improvement in well rested, healthy people don't you? Albeit not as much as in others, but still an improvement. Therefore, performance enhancing.
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So is orange juice. Playing with words.
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| Quote ="talulah"So is orange juice. Playing with words.'"
nobody played with words, just pointed out you were wrong.
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| Quote ="Sunshine state"Well Freddie L Wigan stuck by Gaz Hock and he's come thru it, unlike Tez Newton when the RFL did nothing and look what happened to him, also Hull offered Hock more money than Wigan!! strange isn't it when you already have signed 3 players during the super league season you must have a bigger cap than the rest of us!!'"
When I first read this comment I honestly thought he was talking about Wigan fiddling the salary cap (by referring to Lima, Hoffman and Finch). I had no idea there was a Wigan fan out there who is stupid enough to suggest other clubs are cheating the salary cap!!!
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| Quote ="talulah"So is orange juice. Playing with words.'"
Orange Juice is a banned substance now is it?
That aside,no word play, just in your rush and general indignation to appear a smart you reinforced the point being made quite spectacularly.
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| I know he's expressed a desire to return to Cas at some point in the future - but I've heard - from an (up until now) extremely unreliable source, I hasten to add - that Gareth Ellis is more than on the radar for next year.
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| Quote ="WormInHand"I know he's expressed a desire to return to Cas at some point in the future - but I've heard - from an (up until now) extremely unreliable source, I hasten to add - that Gareth Ellis is more than on the radar for next year.'"
Would be great signing, but can't ever see it though.
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| Quote ="WormInHand"I know he's expressed a desire to return to Cas at some point in the future - but I've heard - from an (up until now) extremely unreliable source, I hasten to add - that Gareth Ellis is more than on the radar for next year.'"
About time we had a big-chinned former international backrower earning his corn in this city.
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| Quote ="WormInHand"I know he's expressed a desire to return to Cas at some point in the future - but I've heard - from an (up until now) extremely unreliable source, I hasten to add - that Gareth Ellis is more than on the radar for next year.'"
I can't see that to be honest, if he doesn't come back to Castleford, then every other side in the league will be going in for him and (with all due respect) with equal money offered, would he go to Hull or Leeds/Wigan/Wire/Saints etc.
I can't see him coming back anyway tbf, seems to be performing well over there and is a key player in the Wests team.
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| we have never offered bugger all for Hock, just another rumour im afraid
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| Quote ="ICECREAMMAN"we have never offered bugger all for Hock, just another rumour im afraid'"
God you're so incredibly linked to our club !! And you haven't got a clue, you are an idiot !
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| Quote ="thehullwhitestar"God you're so incredibly linked to our club !!
And you haven't got a clue, you are an idiot !
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No, it's true. he can see everything at the KC from his flat on orchard park
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| Quote ="ICECREAMMAN"we have never offered bugger all for Hock, just another rumour im afraid'"
Is it an ex player?....no is it an ex coach?....no is it a current member of staff in any way?.....no
is it somebody who has ever had any links to the club or it's staff?....no
He's just a nobody prik !!
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