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| Quote ="UllFC"I think the council are being quite crafty and know full well the Premier League would say no. Allam is keen to portray the council as blockers who won't develop or sell the stadium, by doing this they look like they are actively trying to improve itm while not getting accused of wasting taxpayers cash as the Premier League would fund it.'"
I think you're very likely correct in what you're saying.
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| Quote ="UllFC"I think the council are being quite crafty and know full well the Premier League would say no. Allam is keen to portray the council as blockers who won't develop or sell the stadium, by doing this they look like they are actively trying to improve itm while not getting accused of wasting taxpayers cash as the Premier League would fund it.'"
Good work by the Council if that's the case.
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| God Fewings makes my blood boil how much is he on the mad dictators payroll
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| Fewings is a joke ,hates Fc thats why he likes Allam.The HDM is a disgrace
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| Quote ="hokeydokey"Fewings is a joke ,hates Fc thats why he likes Allam.The HDM is a disgrace'"
A good text was just read out in support of the council and the Melton move and was met by total silence from him sums him up.
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| Quote ="Fields of Fire"God Fewings makes my blood boil how much is he on the mad dictators payroll'"
What's he said now?
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"What's he said now?'"
Just his whole take on it, why the council never spoke to the smc/hull city about expanding the stadium, why the council should appologise to the Allams about the way they have delt with them, how they should let the Allams mortgage the stadium so the land can be devolped for the people of the area (with no benefit to them of co) it was downright obnoxious.
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| Quote ="Fields of Fire"Just his whole take on it, why the council never spoke to the smc/hull city about expanding the stadium, why the council should appologise to the Allams about the way they have delt with them, how they should let the Allams mortgage the stadium so the land can be devolped for the people of the area (with no benefit to them of co) it was downright obnoxious.'"
Wow. No challenge on the principle of gifting a public asset to a private limited company? The Allams' approach to negotiations? The long term risk of default?
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"Wow. No challenge on the principle of gifting a public asset to a private limited company? The Allams' approach to negotiations? The long term risk of default?'"
Now that would be a balanced argument but of course we know Fewings swings ![Laughing icon_lol.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_lol.gif)
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| Fewings obviously fails to understand that if the council transfers a public asset to Allam for less than full market value then each and every councillor who votes in favour can be personally surcharged by the District Auditor for the loss to the public finances.
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| The whole saga is becoming an absolute joke now. The Allam's, once again, must be sitting in their ivory tower laughing their socks off at the divide they have caused between both sets of fans and the media over the KC. The media, rather than showing an impartial view of the debacle, just seem to stoke the fire at every opportunity then sit back and watch the outcome. When I think of the first game at the KC and the sense of achievement, that as a City, we finally had something we could be proud of I would never have thought that 12 yrs later it could turn into such a mess. Such a sad state of affair.
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| I stopped taking the Daily Wail years ago, I would advise everyone who loves this city and its sport to do the same. Its always the first to do stick the knife in and it has one eye on its advertising income at all times. I have a long experience of them mis-quoting me and others I know over the years, twisting everything to suit there political position which is a great deal to the right of everyone in Hull and the surrounding area. The ramblings of its sports writes have hit the bottom in recent years, Dick Tingle and Dave Sexton where at least entertaining , accurate and worthy of a read.
I will organise a party for when it hits the stands for the last time because that day can not be far off its readership has plunged out of sight and local rags are fast being consigned to the history books, the internet is so much faster and more entertaining.
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| Allams have asked the FA not to announce the name change appeal verdict due this week until the end of the season. Does that mean they're expecting to win or lose I wonder?
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"Allams have asked the FA not to announce the name change appeal verdict due this week until the end of the season. Does that mean they're expecting to win or lose I wonder?'"
I think its not the answer they wanted and there buying themselves more time but he doesn't go back on his word though!!
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| Quote ="ditchley16"what do u expect from puffball fans.braindead most of them.thats why they watch puffball.'"
Surely you must see the irony of your comment. Why the need to insult those who watch football when you deem it necessary to insult the sport as well as its fans?
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| Quote ="Offy"tbh the pitch is not cut out too host 2 professional sports on it over a year with hardly a break'"
Nonsense.
The pitch was originally set with a synthetic ingredient so it could withstand all year round sport. Remember it was only intended that first team games be played in it.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"Allams have asked the FA not to announce the name change appeal verdict due this week until the end of the season. Does that mean they're expecting to win or lose I wonder?'"
Much easier to sell a PL team than a Championship team. With some decent results recently, perhaps they want more time before they pull out.
That, or there are zero interested parties and he is saving face until the end of the season on his threat to walk.
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| Quote ="Mild mannered Janitor"Much easier to sell a PL team than a Championship team. With some decent results recently, perhaps they want more time before they pull out.
That, or there are zero interested parties and he is saving face until the end of the season on his threat to walk.'"
As much as many people would want to believe it I can not see a situation were a Premiership team or even a championship team would have no interested parties. Football is very attractive to billionaires willing to lose money or millionaires looking to loan money at inflated interest rates. That attraction is even greater now that the new TV deal is in place.
Any potential sticking point in the sale of City will surround the amount of money that Allam wants.
There will be a reason why they want the announcement delayed. That reason will only be for the greater good of the Allam family as opposed to the club and the football community.
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| Quote ="Graham Richards"As much as many people would want to believe it I can not see a situation were a Premiership team or even a championship team would have no interested parties. Football is very attractive to billionaires willing to lose money or millionaires looking to loan money at inflated interest rates. That attraction is even greater now that the new TV deal is in place.
There will be a reason why they want the announcement delayed. That reason will only be for the greater good of the Allam family as opposed to the club and the football community.'"
Problem is that FFP stops the Man City/Chelsea models being replicated, which means clubs lose their appeal to the mega rich who want to play football club owner.
Probably nothing more than Allam not wanting the news, either way, to disrupt City's relegation fight.
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| why would any potential buyer want to buy city? what do they own? their own training ground!?
not owning the kc is a millstone around allams' neck and one he didn't for see with all the surrounding land protected, pity he didn't do his homework, now he is stuck with a football team nobody wants to buy!
the only thing i see is he pockets the cash from the new tv deal and sells the club off for peanuts
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| Quote ="number 6"why would any potential buyer want to buy city? what do they own? their own training ground!?
not owning the kc is a millstone around allams' neck and one he didn't for see with all the surrounding land protected, pity he didn't do his homework, now he is stuck with a football team nobody wants to buy!
the only thing i see is he pockets the cash from the new tv deal and sells the club off for peanuts'"
I am of the opinion the the ownership of the ownership of the stadium is largely irrelevant. If The SMC and Hull City were run by different parties then it wouldn't even get a mention.
Realistically, what does ownership actually give? Realistically could it be used as security on loans? After all if the loanee defaulted, is the lender really going to repossess a sports stadium and sell it on to recoup their debt? Its not as if its like a residential property for which there is an open market for.
In reality, any loan would be secured on future revenue streams. If you maintain Premier League status, then that appears to be a huge amount. In years gone by it was on future ticket sales. Leeds United found to their detriment that this was a flawed strategy when they slipped down the divisions as the TV money was simply not there in those days.
Key fact in this is that Allam doesn't want to speculate to accumulate, hence the appeal to the Premier League for £20m to put an extra 10k seats in.
The potential purchase price for Hull City would be significantly affected by the liabilities on their Balance sheet which are owed to Allams other business.
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| Quote ="Mild mannered Janitor"Nonsense.
The pitch was originally set with a synthetic ingredient so it could withstand all year round sport. Remember it was only intended that first team games be played in it.'"
well I think the evidence shows its not "nonsense".
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| Quote ="Offy"well I think the evidence shows its not "nonsense".'"
The surface is as flat as a pancake. That a certain party chooses to cut the grass to a level which is shorter than is necessary is the issue ![Wink icon_wink.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_wink.gif)
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| @bbcburnsy: Both @geesport_hull and me heard that FA said to Allams no to name change but couldn't confirm. @PJBuckingham story good indication? #hcafc
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"@bbcburnsy: Both @geesport_hull and me heard that FA said to Allams no to name change but couldn't confirm. @PJBuckingham story good indication? #hcafc'"
Makes the delay in announcing it understandable, I suppose, it gives Mr Allam more time to clear his desk.
I wonder if the council's approach to the FA about increasing the ground's capacity was on behalf of an interested buyer?
Anyone wanting to take over would have to talk to the council about SMC issues, not just Mr Allam.
Maybe they don't see the SMC as a viable option, and want a better long term solution.
Wishful thinking I know, but these voices in my head always make sense.
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