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| To not send both of the players off who were fighting in the cas game was ridiculous. They were really laying into each other. I've not seen the dangerous throws from the wire game but something needs to be done to get the refs to take responsibility. Maybe they should be fined £500 for every player they don't send off who subsequently gets a ban. That would learn them
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| Quote ="edinburgh yorkie"i`ve always thought that the "on report",was a cop out for refs.'"
In theory it was a good idea, but it has been abused by referees to avoid making decisions. Used properly it would work well, its just never has.
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| I always thought on report was used to allow the disciplinary to examine an incident in case things had gone on that the ref and TJs hadn't or couldn't see, [uin addition[/u to punishing what [uhas [/ubeen seen or happened. Now it seems to be used as a cop out to avoid them having to make an on field decision.
If there have been, for example, dangerous throws that go on report then stick the culprits in the bin so the team suffering the challenge at least gets some benefit. All on report does is (potentially) give the team's next opponents a possible advantage as a player may be missing.
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| I've posted on this before...you can punch a player make a head high tackle, dangerous horizontal tackle or grapple & stay on the pitch, but lay on & prevent a try & receive a yellow card for "professional foul" RFL is a complete joke.
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| Quote ="easthull fc fan"I've posted on this before...you can punch a player make a head high tackle, dangerous horizontal tackle or grapple & stay on the pitch, but lay on & prevent a try & receive a yellow card for "professional foul" RFL is a complete joke.'"
It actually depends who you play for as well. Same ref Silverwood put Bowen on report in round 1 for a worse high tackle than he sent Crookes off for. I've no problem with the Crookes sending off in isolation but the fact that the same official applies a harsher punishment to arguably a lesser serious offence tells you all you need to know about the mind set of some if not all officials.
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| Quote ="Staffs FC"It actually depends who you play for as well. Same ref Silverwood put Bowen on report in round 1 for a worse high tackle than he sent Crookes off for. I've no problem with the Crookes sending off in isolation but the fact that the same official applies a harsher punishment to arguably a lesser serious offence tells you all you need to know about the mind set of some if not all officials.'"
I'm pretty sure Bowen didn't get a ban either. It was a very bad tackle too, Worse than Crookes'
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| Quote ="Diablo1967"I'm pretty sure Bowen didn't get a ban either. It was a very bad tackle too, Worse than Crookes''"
He didn't - but then again he had to go and play a game in Aus the week after.
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| Quote ="Staffs FC"He didn't - but then again he had to go and play a game in Aus the week after.'"
And people wonder why we're cynical!!
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"To not send both of the players off who were fighting in the cas game was ridiculous. They were really laying into each other. I've not seen the dangerous throws from the wire game but something needs to be done to get the refs to take responsibility. Maybe they should be fined £500 for every player they don't send off who subsequently gets a ban. That would learn them'"
I think the idea of fining the officials for not dealing with things on the pitch is a good idea in theory but as we all know they are untouchable and seemingly unaccountable for their actions and even lack of.
The 'On Report' system when it initially came out seemed like a good idea and at first seemed to work ok, however the system is now being abused by the ref's who dodging decisions they are in the job to make and being paid for. This I believe has led to a slide in the standard of officiating at games.
The Bowen tackle is a classic example of one of the worst examples of a high shot and was clear red card offence but both the officials and RFL decided it warranted no action but yet Crookes who's was far less intentional and lazy attempt get carded and banned. I have no issue with the card issued to Crookes as I do think it warranted it but yet again we see a level of inconsistency its unreal.
The continuation of these inconsistencies and the lack of attempt by the RFL etc to rectify these leads to the question of whether there is a stacked deck when it comes to certain teams etc.
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| I saw a spear tackle by Roby and he stay on the pitch. The League Express stated a penalty sufficient I have no faith in the RFL
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| Quote ="easthull fc fan"I've posted on this before...you can punch a player make a head high tackle, dangerous horizontal tackle or grapple & stay on the pitch, but lay on & prevent a try & receive a yellow card for "professional foul" RFL is a complete joke.'"
even more so for the twisting of a players limbs, such as that which happened to heremaia in the first game of the season. this is potentially one of the most dangerous incidents of foul play, yet is rarely punished anything other than retrospectively. can't understand why refs don't see these things more often - they should be looking at the contact after all
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| Quote ="the artist"even more so for the twisting of a players limbs, such as that which happened to heremaia in the first game of the season. this is potentially one of the most dangerous incidents of foul play, yet is rarely punished anything other than retrospectively. can't understand why refs don't see these things more often - they should be looking at the contact after all'" Like this one by Sinfield on Westerman.... Quote ="RFL"Player does hold leg of opponent when making a tackle. Twisting motion is due to the natural momentum of the tackle and the actions of ball carrier. No Charge '"
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| This weekends charges are .....
Leeds Rhinos forward Carl Ablett has been charged by the Rugby Football League for allegedly kicking Warrington winger Joel Monaghan during the game at The Halliwell Jones Stadium on May 30.
An allegation that Zak Hardaker of Leeds Rhinos made homophobic comments during the same game has also been referred to the RFL Compliance Department, which has begun a formal investigation.
Hull KR player Michael Weyman has also been charged with using foul and abusive language towards a match official during the 54-12 defeat at Castleford on June 1.
The RFL have charged Wakefield's Richard Moore with a Grade B striking offence in the match against Bradford on June 1, and during the same match Bradford player Elliot Kear, who submitted an early guilty plea, has been charged with a Grade A striking offence.
The RFL Match Review Panel deemed the sending off of London Broncos player Scott Moore to be sufficient following his high tackle on Hull FC player Callum Lancaster .
Ablett and Moore have until 11.00am on Tuesday to submitt Early Guilty Pleas but Weyman does not have the option of submitting an EGP and will appear before an independent disciplinary tribunal on Tuesday evening.
The RFL Match Review Panel also issued cautions to Matt Diskin (Bradford Bulls) and Eloi Pelissier (Catalan Dragons).
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| I look forward to the hardacker outcome
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| Quote ="Legends and Icons"I look forward to the hardacker outcome'"
if found guilty he should never play again
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| Quote ="Standee"if found guilty he should never play again'"
Life ban is a bit OTT standee but I know were your coming from , should cop a big ban tho . I can't see how he can get away with it but this is the rfl after all
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| Quote ="Legends and Icons"Life ban is a bit OTT standee but I know were your coming from , should cop a big ban tho . I can't see how he can get away with it but this is the rfl after all'"
And Leeds as well of course!
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| The "sending off sufficient" decision for Scott More is yet further evidence of the inconsistent performance of the RFL judiciary.
I would love to hear some form of explanation as to why, just two weeks ago a player received a further suspension for a head high shot, yet this week a player gets "sending off sufficient" for an equally dangerous and aggressive play.
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| Quote ="chico's nose"The "sending off sufficient" decision for Scott More is yet further evidence of the inconsistent performance of the RFL judiciary.
I would love to hear some form of explanation as to why, just two weeks ago a player received a further suspension for a head high shot, yet this week a player gets "sending off sufficient" for an equally dangerous and aggressive play.'"
Could it be their respective previous (in Crookes case very recent) disciplinary records?
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| Quote ="Large Paws"Could it be their respective previous (in Crookes case very recent) disciplinary records?'"
Not sure, but interestingly Neil Hudgell has tweeted this little gem tonight. "I must have fallen asleep in class. Can't recall when match review panel had power to deem a sending off as sufficient?"
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| hardaker should be made to apologise to child whilst they shower together
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"hardaker should be made to apologise to child whilst they shower together'"
In the same game I can't believe Ratchford has got away with the putting excessive pressure on Abletts spine/neck area. He could of caused some serious injury to him.
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| Quote ="chico's nose"Not sure, but interestingly Neil Hudgell has tweeted this little gem tonight. "I must have fallen asleep in class. Can't recall when match review panel had power to deem a sending off as sufficient?"'"
he's showing his in depth knowledge of the game there
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| If he is guilty, Hardaker should be sacked from Leeds without question. No need for that.
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| Quote ="chico's nose"Not sure, but interestingly Neil Hudgell has tweeted this little gem tonight. "I must have fallen asleep in class. Can't recall when match review panel had power to deem a sending off as sufficient?"'"
Can someone help me here I'm interested in that one surely its the disciplinary committee that decides sending off sufficient not the review pane whose job is I thought to identify that a foul was committed, they have identified that it had, but passed judgement themselves when they should surely have passed it onto the disciplinary panel to decide the sentence? Unless the referee has got it really wrong if they are sent off surely they have at least to appear. Have I got that wrong?
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