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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"Driving back the 75 miles to West Yorkshire was the first time in probably 6 years that I've questioned why we bother to organise our lives round following the club.'"
Same sentiments here Mrs B. We're off to London next week to visit a friend and I'm seriously debating whether to go to the game on Sunday. Flights are booked for the South of France for an anniversary holiday, which on current plans includes a drive to Perpignan for our game there. Not sure I want to now.
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| Quote ="garry brindley"I don't think it has died in any of us, it's just in a coma. The appointment of a quality head coach could revive everyone.'"
Yeah, that's probably a better description. We're all just waiting to hear the key phrase to make waking up worthwhile.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"Know exactly what you mean, wolfie. The strange thing is that in my head I'd been expecting a win and a big win last night as despite the fact we'd only won one of the last 8, Wakey have been through the wringer and we were at home with the likes of Fitz, Manu, Briscoe, Long, Westerman, Tickle all fit. It soon became clear that the Wigan game was a one-off in terms of intensity. Driving back the 75 miles to West Yorkshire was the first time in probably 6 years that I've questioned why we bother to organise our lives round following the club. Money is tight and I can see gates plummeting unless the club is seen to be taking some action here. Good to see you back on here BTW.'"
I'll raise you 120 miles back to Staffordshire
Seriously I agree with all you say and Wolfie before. After Crusaders then Wigan I thought we were progressing. Last night was the absolute pits. There is no way that team with that coach can go 5th or better this season. The lack of intensity was unreal after the previous week. The players looked lethargic and tired and the errors followed. There's a poor mindset and a poor level of fitness IMO. Wholesale change is needed.
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| Quote ="wolfie"spot on with everything you say.
just look at what it meant to the wakey players,this is my 33rd year as a fan of fc and ive never felt like i do now,in all them years ive had fc running through my veins, now i cant even get up for game day,i used to get excited just getting ready and putting my shirt on,now i think oh boll-x its rugby tonight shall i or shant i,sat talking to my mate at the game about premier league darts and not interested in the team ive loved and followed for all them years,some of the things i witnessed last night is what you see at billy smarts circus and not on a rugby pitch by well paid players,ive got a full coach going to quins for the weekend and the only thing thats in the way of a good weekend is the fact that fc are playing,how can we go from a superb performance and team spirit at wigan to a pile of sh-te like last night.
I can honestly say its a very long time since ive felt like this,things are going to get very nasty mark my word,it wasnt a pleasent site at the end of the game last night also outside the ground, i reckon come monday everyone will of got there wish.
spoke to tommy martyn last night and he said he was once on the bench when chants like that happened and he said it was not very pleasent.
Im done in now and realy dont know what to make of it all.
wolfie'"
also i forgot to say its not nice when the fans start arguing amongst themselfs as many people around me was doing,there is to many restless fans and things will only get worse,i was on the verge of diving on the pitch last night at the end,not sure what i was planing on doing tho once on there i was fuming and to be honest ive not calmed down yet,time to go out and have a few beers with a few gin chasers
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| Quote ="The Eclipse"I find it interesting that youngsters like Burnett, Hall and Lee are deemed not good enough but they then go on to excel at other clubs. Something is definitely wrong.'"
Forgetting the other Agar "argument" for a moment but have any players left and really gone and excelled at other clubs?? I dont see any of the above as having really done so unless you count one game against us last night and Hall apparently having a resonable game against Salford. And despite being under a great coach according to some at Huddersfield I havent seen any real improvement in Graham Horne.
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| Quote ="wolfie"
I can honestly say its a very long time since ive felt like this,things are going to get very nasty mark my word,it wasnt a pleasent site at the end of the game last night also outside the ground, =#004040i reckon come monday everyone will of got there wish.
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If they act now it's not too late. Nobby on a "rest of the year" deal as either coach or DOR (to save the board's face) if necessary. Would be loath to give him more than this at this point as I want the board to demonstrate their commitment to us fans by spending whatever it takes for the best coach available for next season. Please, God, not McNamara as there is no point in going through the pain for no gain.
Wolfie - you mentioned the well-paid players, do you now think Agar has taken them as far as he can? What do you think will happen on Monday?
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| Quote ="wolfie"Quote ="wolfie"spot on with everything you say.
just look at what it meant to the wakey players,this is my 33rd year as a fan of fc and ive never felt like i do now,in all them years ive had fc running through my veins, now i cant even get up for game day,i used to get excited just getting ready and putting my shirt on,now i think oh boll-x its rugby tonight shall i or shant i,sat talking to my mate at the game about premier league darts and not interested in the team ive loved and followed for all them years,some of the things i witnessed last night is what you see at billy smarts circus and not on a rugby pitch by well paid players,ive got a full coach going to quins for the weekend and the only thing thats in the way of a good weekend is the fact that fc are playing,how can we go from a superb performance and team spirit at wigan to a pile of sh-te like last night.
I can honestly say its a very long time since ive felt like this,things are going to get very nasty mark my word,it wasnt a pleasent site at the end of the game last night also outside the ground, i reckon come monday everyone will of got there wish.
spoke to tommy martyn last night and he said he was once on the bench when chants like that happened and he said it was not very pleasent.
Im done in now and realy dont know what to make of it all.
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also i forgot to say its not nice when the fans start arguing amongst themselfs as many people around me was doing,there is to many restless fans and things will only get worse,i was on the verge of diving on the pitch last night at the end,not sure what i was planing on doing tho once on there
i was fuming and to be honest ive not calmed down yet,time to go out and have a few beers with a few gin chasers
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TBF Wolfie I think you sum up what most of feel, especially after witnessing what we all saw last night.
The frustrations of the fans is now boiling over and was evident last night with the arguing amongst the crowd and also the chants at the end. We have all witnessed the slow demise of the team on the pitch since the 2006 season and what compounds the feelings are the fact the club off the field has never been in a better position, but yet the product itself it absolute w**k.
The club have relied or taken for granted the fans loyalty but now even the most ardent rose tinted fans are starting to grumble as patience has worn out. The club and board have a big job on their hands to appease their customers in the fans and sponsors.
I honestly felt like taking my pass back to the club shop today and asking for a refund and would have done had I felt it would have done any good.
No doubt we will have a condescending statement from James Rule next week.
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| Quote ="WormInHand"If they act now it's not too late. Nobby on a "rest of the year" deal as either coach or DOR (to save the board's face) if necessary. Would be loath to give him more than this at this point as I want the board to demonstrate their commitment to us fans by spending whatever it takes for the best coach available for next season. Please, God, not McNamara as there is no point in going through the pain for no gain.
Wolfie - you mentioned the well-paid players, [udo you now think Agar has taken them as far as he can? What do you think will happen on Monday[/u?'"
Not sure what to think tbh,but agar doesnt deserve to be treat like last night and tbh things will only get worse,cant ever recal hearing anything like that,my take on it is that he will go,wether he leaves or be relieved of his duties i have no idea,rule wasnt there last night so ive no idea what his views will be.
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| Treat like what??? You mean the crowd voicing their opinion???
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| Quote ="carl_spackler"We're all just waiting to hear the key phrase to make waking up worthwhile.'"
If I wake up and that key phrase includes either of the names Noble or McNamara, I'll be reaching for the Mogadon
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| Quote ="cod'ead"If I wake up and that key phrase includes either of the names Noble or McNamara, I'll be reaching for the =#000040Mogadon'"
Had a dose of that last night, didn't we? Need something stronger. Cyanide time if McBanana, Noble I'd take for the rest of the season.
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| Quote ="cod'ead"If I wake up and that key phrase includes either of the names Noble or McNamara, I'll be reaching for the Mogadon'"
Agree about McNamara, but I don't honestly think we're in a position to attract anyone better than Noble. He could hopefully do a similar job to that he did at Wigan, lay the groundwork for a couple of seasons so that we could attract a rising Australian coach to finish the job.
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| As ive been saying since the start of the season we'll finish 7th or 8th and get beat in our first PO game.
Wheres the "top4 brigade"
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| Quote ="UllFC"This year isn't over and done with if they change the coach soon.
2006 started badly, but I don't need to remind anyone how we ended the season.'"
We only lost 4 games from 7 under Kear at the point before he was sacked, and were only 7th in the league.
We even won more games under Sharpe the year he got sacked at this point of the season. 4 wins and 1 draw from 14 before his tenure ended.
We're currently 1 win in 9 games. Sorry, he's had long enough. Bye bye.
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| Quote ="carl_spackler"Agree about McNamara, but I don't honestly think we're in a position to attract anyone better than Noble. He could hopefully do a similar job to that he did at Wigan, lay the groundwork for a couple of seasons so that we could attract a rising Australian coach to finish the job.'"
Especially if we want a Aussie, there's going to be a few movements with the nrl coaches, anyone with talent will fancy their chances.
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| As an outsider looking in, it reminds me very much of the situation we had at Wigan a few years ago. Enormous underachievement, but only a few changes need making for there to be an immediate difference.
[urlhttp://wigan.rlfans.com/news.php?readmore=615[/url Sound familiar?
I'm amazed Agar is still in charge, on paper your squad should be pushing for a top 4 spot. I genuinely hope the Board make the right decision, you deserve a lot better than the sh*te you are getting served up at the moment.
Hang in there, remember it's always darkest before the dawn
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| Noble or McNamara??? who else is available?
What if they kept in-house again? Webster?Fitzgibbon?
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| Quote ="Wellsy13"Yeah, they had enough chances at a club with poor systems in place when it comes to developing players. Look at how they're doing at their new clubs. They are very talented youngsters that just aren't getting the teaching they need at this club, aren't developing, and as such are shipped out and then look good elsewhere where they DO get the right teaching in the right systems.
Pretty much every player is performing badly. We can't get rid of them all. 17 players don't perform badly on their own week in week out by coincidence. I think it's a miracle Danny Houghton has managed to break through our system, and even Tom Briscoe is beginning to look poor.'"
100 percent spot on
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| Quote ="Rupert Pupkin"Not going to good for us at the mo either. Not sure the board could have done much more but the attitude the team are turning up with is not acceptable.
Both FC and Rovers have had a decent fixture list to kick off with and its hard to believe that we are both hanging around the wrong end of the table.'"
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| Quote ="PAUL M"We could still make the 8.'"
and then go out with a wimper just like last year under agar.his poor rotation will cost us again .our key players will be injured or burnt out by mid season.
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| Quote ="PAUL M"The argument was okay but the darts chat was good
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Are you the looking one with the long hair and earring?
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"Are you the travelling friend looking one with the long hair and earring?'"
I wish, shaved head (I don't have a choice)
You should come and say hi one day.
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| You must have seen where that irate fan nailed his pass to the ticket office door?Apparantly when he calmed down he went back next day,and some bugger had pinched the nail.
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