Nice to see Todd Byrne second from the left

Oh the memories!

Its just occured to me that for the first time in my life I'm older than Hull's head coach (as well as the Chief Executive being younger than me). It was bad enough when I was older than all the players.

How old do I feel now.

Some very interesting quotes on this thread (first started when Agar was appointed). Above was my take on the situation.

He hasn't proved me wrong, unfortunately.

I was clearly speechless

I said to give him a chance, at the end of the day he had been given the job so we had nothing to lose. However having seen our play get no better and the results get steadily worse, i feel he has had a fair crack of the whip so to speak.

That was quick work.



The first few pages in particular raise a few chuckles now. Here was my take...



I think I've moved on from underwhelmed now.

Robbo for Mod?

Well you got the second bit right.

How prescient was this...



Just off to pat myself on the back.

Well at least the last point has been a bit of a pleasant surprise.

Turns out it wasn't that interesting to see what direction he takes the team

Nothing from me when this topic originally surfaced. I think it must have been a case of "If you can't say anything nice, don't say anything at all."

I have certainly moved on from that philosophy if the conversation I had with my mother after yesterdays game is anything to go by.

I think it has gone beyond blaming Agar . It is the playing squad who are letting the Club down.

It is both.

With which whom lays the responsibility?

I hate the "it's the players' fault" type comments. If there is a problem with a child, it's the fault of the parents for not bringing them up right. Same with the coach. Difference is, a coach can pick and choose his players.

Whilst I agree that the coach should be accountable for the performance of his players, the players do have to accept responsibility for their missed tackles, poorly executed kicking/passing etc. They are not playing well and while that may be down in large part to poor coaching, it must in some part be their own fault too.

Are you seriously making that analogy? These are grown men who can decide to do whatever they want. If they really dont want to behave in a professional manner the only sanction that Agar can use on them is to get rid of them, which he appears to be doing now that contracts are coming to an end. The behaviour of some of the players is childish I agree but he cant exactly send them to bed without any tea can he!

Agreed, but it is a hell of a case for ripping up contracts and making them a lot more related to performance.

This is one time I'm not glad I was right but it was bl00dy obvious it was a bad choice from day 1

Or putting more stringent rules regarding conduct, making them more accountable for their off field antics.
First on the list - NO SMOKING!

So why hasn't Mr agar already dropped those players whose "proirities" dont lie with rugby? We had a squad of 17 players yesterday who were all from the 1st team squad. Their were no Academy players in their. Isn't it about time that the players who don't want to play are dropped? And 2 or 3 Academy players are drafted in. Who would you rather have alongside you in the trenches? Some idiot who diidn't want to be there or a young kid trying his guts out and you know that at the very least he would be willing to put his body on the line, unlike some of the cowards we have in our team. It's time Mr Agar took action and made examples of these clowns instead of shifting the blame around all the time (and by examples I don't mean take players off while the team are under the post after a try like the cheap shot at Chris Thorman, that, in my eyes, was another way of deflecting the blame from Mr Agar again onto someone else). ACTION not more hollow words!!!!! God I'm angry