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| Quote ="C for Cuckoo"And we have a winger who can play fullback. And a centre who can play in the halves.
It might seem like a waste of a sub, and it didn't work out against Les Cats, but it isn't a ridiculous thing to do.
But maybe if people continue to criticise it in every post they make then Odgo will change his mind and we can just cross our fingers and hope none of our backs ever get hurt.'"
I think trying to put some semblance of understanding to the coaches approach to his bench is an older generation thing
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| All of our starting forwards cab play big minutes, and we are at our best when they are on the field, so I can definitely see Hodgson's logic of having a back and a hooker on the bench. Rather than having 4 forwards just for the sake of it, we are covered for almost all eventualities. What's the point shoehorning in another prop when we want Satae and Sao on the pitch for as long as possible? Not using all 4 subs isn't necessarily a bad thing. It just means our best players play big minutes and there is no point making changes just for the hell of it.
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| Quote ="mwindass"I agree, really like Brown. He's small but makes good yards and has a good offload game. Hodgson seems to prefer Fash atm, who isn't flashy and has a low error count
Brown, Cator and Lane should be the cornerstone of our pack for the next 10 years.'"
I like cator but feel in a few years hell need to move to hooker to stay in SL
Cause he's far too small to be a loose forward in the long run and the expectation when he stops been a "youngster"
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| Quote ="Mr. Zucchini Head"All of our starting forwards cab play big minutes, and we are at our best when they are on the field, so I can definitely see Hodgson's logic of having a back and a hooker on the bench. Rather than having 4 forwards just for the sake of it, we are covered for almost all eventualities. What's the point shoehorning in another prop when we want Satae and Sao on the pitch for as long as possible? Not using all 4 subs isn't necessarily a bad thing. It just means our best players play big minutes and there is no point making changes just for the hell of it.'"
Yes our starting forwards can play big minutes and we are indeed better when they are on but while we have been without both Tag and Bowden once Satae and Sao have gone off we lose any real go forward. The only reason I am puzzling the use of the bench of late is against a very physical side like Catalans we went with a very light bench and against Leeds in a game that will have been a very heavy pitch due to the wet weather all week and during the game it will have been energy zapping, we had a bench with 2 players only being used after 60 mins and again minus a good young forward.
So its not a case of having 4 forward son just for the sake of it more of sharing the workload so we don't run out of steam down the middle or lose too much go forward when Satae and Sao are off. If Taylor and Bowden were both fit and in the 17 then we look a different 17 altogther as we still have the size & go forward. So when both Taylor and Bowden are back that would mean if we go with a hooker and back on the bench we have to sacrifice Fash and Cator to make way for Johnstone & Scott? Unless we are going to see more of Cator filling in at 9 to rest Houghton or continue to play Houghton for 80 mins each week.
Its just an observation and other posters have made similar ones, so think they're fair a valid points and at the end of the day its a forum where discussion is had by fans of the club.
This isn't aimed at you Mr. Zucchini Head but while I'm posting I don't know if its me as I'm getting older but seem to be finding the snide remarks from posters just because someone has a different view is tiring. I know in the past there were a number of posters who were heavily critical and overly so but this season I think the vast majority have all made vaild points be it good or bad and reasoned with it. But like I say may be its just me being older now and less tolerant in a Victor Meldrew way
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| I know there's been talk of Widdop hankering for a move back to Oz but he's started to look top notch at Warrington.
Good game this tonight.
Big ask but could do with a Devils comeback victory.
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| Quote ="WIZEB"I know there's been talk of Widdop hankering for a move back to Oz but he's started to look top notch at Warrington.
Good game this tonight.
Big ask but could do with a Devils comeback victory.'"
A brief bit of hope just extinguished I feel.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"A brief bit of hope just extinguished I feel.'"
I feel you may be unfortunately correct.
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| Bench of Bowden, Brown, Fash and Johnstone.
Think he's got that spot on tonight.
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| Quote ="Hasbag"Bench of Bowden, Brown, Fash and Johnstone.
Think he's got that spot on tonight.'"
but no Savelio?
is it performance or injury?
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| Quote ="bonaire"but no Savelio?
is it performance or injury?'"
I see no reason to leave him out based on performance.
Probably just has a niggle or not 100% from the short turnaround.
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| Quote ="Hasbag"Bench of Bowden, Brown, Fash and Johnstone.
Think he's got that spot on tonight.'"
No Savelio which is a worry. But it's good to have some fit props.
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| Quote ="bonaire"but no Savelio?
is it performance or injury?'"
Minor hamstring injury, could be back next week or the following week.
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| Quote ="ComeOnYouUll"Minor hamstring injury, could be back next week or the following week.'"
lets hope its next week.Big player for us
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| Awful start. Saints made that looks embarrassingly easy
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| Carlos steaming out the line ala Leeds sort it out
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| What the is that right side defence. Been hammered there 3 times already.
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| This is very poor we are just far so slow at everything. The right edge needs to sort itself out it’s just a shambles.
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| This could get very messy.
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| Get in! Good heads up play by Connor.
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| big Chris looks like he has picked up an injury making that tackle
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