Agree, he is supposed to be a pro athlete. It’s embarrassing for the club. Those defending him or making light of it need to think about it a bit more.

No... is your implication that that makes it okay?

I don’t expect him to be torn limb from limb over this, but at a minimum an apology and some sort of contrition appears to in order.



Aye that’s the one, fair enough.



The ones that spring to mind are Cockayne because of his repeated offending and Minns because it is recent. I’m happy to discuss others, if you can remind me. Just to acknowledge up front that neither were/are as good/important players as Kelly, making it easier to take the moral high ground to the limited extent that I did.

For Cockayne, the suspension for the assault, I was just about okay with that and one or two people told me it was out of character. The racist Facebook post was his second chance for me and I thought it was a mistake not to sack him then. It’s a fine line between being supportive and enabling. Obviously then, I had no issue when he was sacked after the next thing with the car and Watts. I couldn’t, and still don’t really, understand why we bought him back for the second spell though that was as much for rugby reasons as anything else.

With Minns, as with Cockayne’s first offence, i’m okay with the club being supportive. I think he should and will get a ban, because those are the rules, but i’m not a great believer in our drug laws and by itself, I don’t think using is as bad as assault (definitely), or using racist or misogynistic language in the ways Cockayne or Kelly, respectively, did. I imagine on the last the difference between BC and AK and a fair few others is that they were caught, but that doesn’t excuse them.

Assuming there’s no more to it, either mitigating or aggravating, then I think one of those all too standard club statements and a fine paid to a women’s charity will be the extent of it. And McDonalds should ban him (if that’s where it was).

Agree with most of that, not sure about the relativity you apply to Class A drug use, but would be surprised if it amounts to much more than what you describe as far as Kelly goes. Will certainly be a tricky one if the contract talk is still ongoing.

Just a personal opinion. Massive oversimplification but if, magically, I could make any two of the following three disappear from the world:

Violence
Use of bigoted language
Class A drugs

I wouldn’t have to think about it very long.

Magic away violence and you magic away Rugby League, so i can only assume you mean the other two?

I think that is oversimplified. Within bigoted language would you include misogynistic name-calling in that, e.g. on a messageboard?

Excepting where the participants consent. So RL can stay, and you and I can continue our BDSM play.

Talking of shocking stuff seen on Facebook, I saw you in your new five a side kit earlier. Glorious.

There was a clue in my post. But I stand by it.





That’s an entirely fair point, and certainly I can recall instances where you have been the target. If there are any you’d like me or another moderator or admin to look at for action, targeted at you or anybody else, i think pm would be best. However, given the context, and if the Hull mods are okay with it, then i’m happy to look in-thread with them, you and other posters, at representative examples as part of a more general discussion.

Well if you've noticed it, here and elsewhere, and not thought it worth actioning, maybe it's not one of the top 2 things to be rid of.

Its a nothing video. Bloke gets drunk, acts a bit stupid. End of story.

The pain in the @rses are the p!ssed ones who then proceed to try and bum fags.

Tim Wilby .

Obviously this is pretty poor behaviour from Albert, but the fact that the beginning of the conversation is missing and it was being filmed in the first place cannot help but make me suspicious that we arent seeing the full story here

Also, on the class A drug angle - in my experience, food is the last thing you want

It was only an old indigenous aboriginal term of affection.
He was after a shag.

I'm surprised it didn't make your list of things to magically disappear! lol

I wish I was as attractive as a well paid professional sportsman

Having watched it again I think they were just haggling over her price

I find it strange that an employee is filming a customer whilst serving him, and then seems to be putting certain words in his mouth.
The fact that the full incident hasn't been filmed means context is lost, so I'll reserve judgement.
I can see why the Dobbins are all over it though. Deflection technique and all that.

yeah right.....

I did say if I had magic.

But genuinely (actually really genuinely), I know my approach to moderating is a bit half d a lot of the time but this is important to me. If it relates to these boards and/or me specifically please let me know or contact admin.

As to ‘elsewhere’, maybe i’m the equivalent of the lad leaning across the shot at 46 seconds, arguably complicit by my silence, just not wanting any bother. Beyond seeing a sporting panto villain brought low by his own nasty gormcloppery, there are wider important issues raised, and it reflects poorly on all men, including those of us who think ourselves enlightened, that we’ve contributed so little to addressing them, imo.

I would also like the court to note that i’ve done very little to prevent violent conflict or the use of class A drugs, so while my uselessness is complete, my argumentation is internally consistent.

This made me laugh for some reason. Especially with what looks like a bag of coke on the table!

Are Radders and Abdul friends again?
Let's hope so

Hopefully Pearson will forward this to all the NRL

Not really much in the and had it been Washbrook etc then nothing would have been made if it.

A word from Radford is all this needs.

Give some Rovers fans something to get excited about though, some of the accusations on social media are brilliant

Just watched the video not a real lot in it he's just really drunk which isn't a surprise as we all know he's a bit of head I can also understand why some think he's on drugs