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| The picture fiasco is a problem, but for me this is the agenda that should be pushed.....
1 Why is the SMC losing money?
2 Why is the (tax payer) stadium criminally underused?
3 Why is the (tax payer) stadium criminally overpriced?
4 Have other sports(baskeball etc) been priced out of the facilities?
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| Quote ="voodooroo"icon_iamwithstupid.gif'"
So, I am stupid for doing something am I?
fair enough
[url=http://www.thisishullandeastriding.co.uk/Rugby-legend-Johnny-Whiteley-awarded-honorary/story-15061764-detail/story.htmlThis man deserves better[/url
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| Quote ="JACK DETH"The picture fiasco is a problem, but for me this is the agenda that should be pushed.....
1 Why is the SMC losing money?
2 Why is the (tax payer) stadium criminally underused?
3 Why is the (tax payer) stadium criminally overpriced?
4 Have other sports(baskeball etc) been priced out of the facilities?'"
I think additional arguments might dilute your main one. The Jonny Whiteley one is simple, legitimate and should have widespread support. Going after other targets is trickier and potentially more controversial. I wouldn't be opening other fronts at this point. fwiw.
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| Quote ="voodooroo"[uI am sure pearson is less bothered about the whole thing,[/u quite frankly we should not even rise to the situation as its below us in so many ways'"
Couldn't be further from the truth.
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| Quote ="JACK DETH"The picture fiasco is a problem, but for me this is the agenda that should be pushed.....
1 Why is the SMC losing money?2 Why is the (tax payer) stadium criminally underused?
3 Why is the (tax payer) stadium criminally overpriced?
4 Have other sports(baskeball etc) been priced out of the facilities?'"
I am probably wrong but could it have anything to do with the lower gates for both clubs in recent years?
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| Quote ="MOT"I am probably wrong but could it have anything to do with the lower gates for both clubs in recent years?'"
In part, quite possibly, but not in it's entirity. Just think about the people that no longer use facilities at the KC and the revenue streams that have been lost.
As cod'ead has said, it's a classic asset strippers approach.
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| I basically said its a community facility and it should be used to hiighlight great sporting heros of our city, that the bloke from City isnt going to argue against the SMC?allams as theyre his employers and that there should be an independant party involved in the SMC
Also asked Peter how he would feel if the BBC charged him for displaying his photos in their building
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| The thing is, he can strip it all he likes. The council is not losing a penny and has only ever had small change as a dividend. The only people losing are the SMC. Let Hull City adn whichever of the Allam's companies want to prop it up do so. The council should say thank you for the philanthropy of running its facility at no cost to the local taxpayer. The stadium is maintained in line with the agreements put in place with the SMC - if they cant make money then they should sell the SMC to someone who can.
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| Are people going to boycott the Allam British Open (squash) now at the kc?
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| Quote ="Hutchie"I basically said its a community facility and it should be used to hiighlight great sporting heros of our city, that the bloke from City isnt going to argue against the SMC?allams as theyre his employers and that there should be an independant party involved in the SMC
Also asked Peter how he would feel if the BBC charged him for displaying his photos in their building'"
In honesty Hutchie, Levy was a c0ck during that interview (which isn't a departure from the norm), I've sent a whole list of questions but I get the feeling that the BBC [ilocally[/i don't have any apetite, we shall see what develops in the next 48 hours, could be interesting. Anyone seen Sadlers article, can't get the Rugby papers down here so not seen it, but he did say he would mention it?
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| Quote ="MOT"Are people going to boycott the Allam British Open (squash) now at the kc?'"
Just ripped my ticket up.
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| Quote ="Standee"In honesty Hutchie, Levy was a c0ck during that interview (which isn't a departure from the norm), I've sent a whole list of questions but I get the feeling that the BBC [ilocally[/i don't have any apetite, we shall see what develops in the next 48 hours, could be interesting. Anyone seen Sadlers article, can't get the Rugby papers down here so not seen it, but he did say he would mention it?'"
Mr HWS said its in the League Express (think thats what paper he picked up at lunch). Big article aparently. I will know more when he gets home.
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| Quote ="Staffs FC"Just ripped my ticket up.'"
I hope you jumped off a doll's house and squashed a grape too?
(sorry, couldn't resist!)
People who care need to call in to Sports Talk tonight, keep sending emails etc etc.
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| Going to pick up a copy on my way home.
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| Quote ="Hull White Star"Mr HWS said its in the League Express (think thats what paper he picked up at lunch). Big article aparently. I will know more when he gets home.'"
Keep us posted, thanks.
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| Quote ="MOT"Are people going to boycott the Allam British Open (squash) now at the kc?'"
i'll be in manchester for the magic weekend
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| Quote ="Mick Cranes Sidestep"The thing is, he can strip it all he likes. The council is not losing a penny and has only ever had small change as a dividend. The only people losing are the SMC. Let Hull City adn whichever of the Allam's companies want to prop it up do so. The council should say thank you for the philanthropy of running its facility at no cost to the local taxpayer. The stadium is maintained in line with the agreements put in place with the SMC - if they cant make money then they should sell the SMC to someone who can.'"
You need to look at the bigger picture and try reading the published accounts.
The SMC has only racked up losses since the Allams took over and while those losses have been posted, cash at hand has increased to over £1m. Hull City's book value has also tanked since Allam's take over: from being -£39m in 2010 to -£51m in 2012.
As I've said, this is classic MBO takeover strategy. His next move will be to "show" the council that the whole pack of cards is in danger of collapsing unless they "sell" him the KC and the adjoining land for a nominal sum. If that should ever happen, the only winners will be the Allam family
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| Quote ="cod'ead"You need to look at the bigger picture and try reading the published accounts.
The SMC has only racked up losses since the Allams took over and while those losses have been posted, cash at hand has increased to over £1m. Hull City's book value has also tanked since Allam's take over: from being -£39m in 2010 to -£51m in 2012.
As I've said, this is classic MBO takeover strategy.Hisnext move will be to "show" the council that the whole pack of cards is in danger of collapsing unlessthey "sell" him the KC and the adjoining land for a nominal sum. If that should ever happen, the only winners will be the Allam family'"
I understand that, but fortunately it will never be sold for peppercorn - too much red tape for that. I get their game.
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| Quote ="The Milky Bar Kid"i'll be in manchester for the magic weekend'"
For the whole week it's on?
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| Quote ="Mick Cranes Sidestep"I understand that, but fortunately it will never be sold for peppercorn - too much red tape for that. I get their game.'"
Pickles could cut through that red tape with the stroke of a pen
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| Quote ="Mild Rover"I think additional arguments might dilute your main one. The Jonny Whiteley one is simple, legitimate and should have widespread support. Going after other targets is trickier and potentially more controversial. I wouldn't be opening other fronts at this point. fwiw.'"
Fair point Mild Rover, but the issues I speak of, are to me, more important than the removal of pictures.
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| Quote ="cod'ead"Pickles could cut through that red tape with the stroke of a pen'"
It would set a dangerous precendent. It would see the staff of councils rushing under the new community initiative taking over assets for nothing!
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| Quote ="Standee"Not sure, Total RL was (Martyn Sadler) apparently he mentions it in his column today. I'll look for League Express contact details, thanks.'"
Total RL and League Express are the same company (League Publications Ltd).
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| You shouldn't have to pay for the privilege of displaying a sporting legends photo/memorabilia, especially if the suite is named after them. It's wrong and it stinks.
Good luck with the crusade, and good luck this coming Friday.
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| Quote ="Mild mannered Janitor"Total RL and League Express are the same company (League Publications Ltd).'"
Ah right, didn't realise, thanks.
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