A bit of experience is what we need. It's only fair to give him a chance. If at this time next year he's either injured or playing badly then have a go at him.

You mean if James Webster had been replaced by Sean Long?

On a 1 year deal, considering it was last year, and when he was in better form maybe.

Had we announced the signing of Long now, I wouldn't call it as a forward step but a quick fix. I'd still someone such as Myler from Salford and therefore underwhelmed for the long term plans if we got Long instead.

Initially, it's a decent signing, but for long term aspirations, and in 2 years -another scrum half will be needed as he won't play at the very top level at 34/35.

Yes big money has been offered at 1 and a prop,plus also jordan Turner at Salford been tracked

Sorry pal but his kicking is crap and so is his organising.

Hull have signed 2 OAPs for next year.

It's big risk but IMO saints did rite in letting long go.

A change of club may do him some good. He still better than what you got at moment though.

I dont get this every team signs older players who will need replacing in a couple of years, you have done that with Fozzard, signing Long for two years gives us the chance to develop a young halfback or keep an eye out for another one.

Despite his age, Long is in the top 3 Scrum halfs in SL.

Saints wanted him to stay, but (rightly) only offered him a one year deal to keep Eastmond and others happy.

It gives us 2 years to get one though, people were even suggesting keeping Thorman for another year (before the Leeds game) and going all out for a quality SH for 2011. Myler is by far one of the most over rated players in SL and is not what we need for next season, he plays a similar role to when Horne plays stand off.
Now for the people knocking the signing of Long, who gives a flying one about his age, he still controls things for Saints, is their main kicker in general play and is a big mouthed cocky scrum half. Now call me naiave but isn't that exactly what EVERYONE on here as been crying out for? The other major plus point for me is that he will be here for all of the pre-season campaign, could the same be said for any Aussie we could have possibly signed?

All this talk of Orford, Thurston etc. I think some of you guys are getting suckered by agent talk. It's VERY unusual for a genuine top-tier and prime Aussie scrum half to make the jump to the UK. In Australia these guys are feted like movie stars and live the life of such, whilst over here they are media nobodies.

Orford might say he loves SL more than having the Corrs girls lick ice cream off his nads - but the chances are he's just trying to secure himself a better deal in the NRL by initiating a Dutch auction.

For a team which has lacked a genuine scrum half (to crippling effect) for some time - a slightly past prime Long is infinitely better than an Aussie assurance that isn't worth the paper it's written on.

What happens if Hull hold out on an assurance from either Aussie and it falls through (very likely). Long has gone to another club and you're no better off than you are now. Indeed, you're worse off because you have less time to delve into the bag of second-tier scrum halves (see Thorman).

No brainer if you ask me.

Maybe we could have him straight away then seeing as you clearly don't need him.

Hull FC board:




Saints board:

Wire will be in the market for Orford.

Exactly. People knocking Long's age should look at the league table. As he said before on BBC website he never misses a training session and feels physically in good shape. I don't think he's as good as he was 6 years ago but is exactly the type of player we need and he's British.

nice research

go back to the Sean Long thread on your board last thursday!

Offer him the same as you did Monaghan .... that's worked out real well.

That is an excellent point - I must admit I'd overlooked that. As we reduce our oversees signings we need to look on our own shores and the number of high-quality players is not great. This gets us through two years (at least) whilst we develop a scrum-half with his (hopefully) excellent guidance.

well we wanted a 7 now we have got one.

spoke to one of the players at 4-45pm i said what you think of the longy signing? he said ive just found out 10 minutes ago off the internet

This is what i posted on the Giants board previously. I stand by it. Maybe longy will prove me wrong.


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HE It would be an absolute disaster.

this is the man who walked out on a GB tour becuase he was tired.

He now wants a two year deal because he wants the money and is preparing for retirement. He has no heart left for the game other than playing for Saints and winning a trophy.

have you seen his goalkicking this season he is missing them in front of the sticks.

HE IS NOT INTERESTED.
WILL BE LESS INTERESTED IF HE CAME HERE.

It would be the first BACKWARD step made by the Giants in 4 seasons.

I would rather the money be spent on someone who is HUNGRY, or PROFESSIONAL enough to put in his best every wek. Menzies or Brett Hodgson are model pros who will always give 100%. Someone like Long is not what we need. he is not a model professional and is just looking to make some money


I cannot believe that anyone is seriously considering him as a signing.

NO NO No

How nice to see a thread with so many positive comments for a change.

So that's why we are pants this year, the players are on the internet by 4.35pm

and alot of saints fans would of been happy if he signed another year contract! Id rather take their knowledge over yours...

That's exactly what you said about Thorman!!!

Is he the young 2nd row forward ?

Thanks for that!

Bye bye

so now your saying a player cant look on the internet,deary me