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| Quote ="Staffs FC"Fair point but it's the procession of comments from both Gentle and the players in the media that claim that all of the deficiencies are being tackled and 'worked on in training' that are wearing very thin as time and again we see the same deficiencies appear on matchday. I agree he's limited in what he can say but I think a ban on all players talking to the media until the end of the season and a bit of a siege mentality woudn't go amiss. [i=#0000BFThat would require a close knit approach from the squad of players and despite being told to the contrary we don't look a particularly close bunch to me.[/i As was pointed out by someone else the reaction to the McDonnell spear tackle was pathetic from our lot IMO.'"
This bit concerns and puzzles me, because just a few weeks ago we [idid[/i look like a close-knit bunch. You have to wonder what's gone wrong in that regard since. Although it could be tied up with the poor form / lack of confidence thing.
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| Quote ="Staffs FC"Fair point but it's the procession of comments from both Gentle and the players in the media that claim that all of the deficiencies are being tackled and 'worked on in training' that are wearing very thin as time and again we see the same deficiencies appear on matchday. I agree he's limited in what he can say but I think a ban on all players talking to the media until the end of the season and a bit of a siege mentality woudn't go amiss. That would require a close knit approach from the squad of players and despite being told to the contrary we don't look a particularly close bunch to me. As was pointed out by someone else the reaction to the McDonnell spear tackle was pathetic from our lot IMO.'"
Spot on. It's 'put up or shut up' time.
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| Quote ="Kosh"This bit concerns and puzzles me, because just a few weeks ago we [idid[/i look like a close-knit bunch. You have to wonder what's gone wrong in that regard since. Although it could be tied up with the poor form / lack of confidence thing.'"
Looking from the outside, the only thing that has changed is that we have started getting players back from injury. Could it be that we did have a backs to the wall/doing it hard mentality which has now gone?
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| Quote ="Staffs FC"Fair point but it's the procession of comments from both Gentle and the players in the media that claim that all of the deficiencies are being tackled and 'worked on in training' that are wearing very thin as time and again we see the same deficiencies appear on matchday. I agree he's limited in what he can say but I think a ban on all players talking to the media until the end of the season and a bit of a siege mentality woudn't go amiss. That would require a close knit approach from the squad of players and despite being told to the contrary we don't look a particularly close bunch to me. As was pointed out by someone else the reaction to the McDonnell spear tackle was pathetic from our lot IMO.'"
A ban on speaking to the media would probably be a good thing, or would we be complaining that we aren't hearing anything from the club again? Swings and roundabouts.
Still, not buying that Gentle is making excuses. He said on Humberside last night he is taking just as much responsibility as anyone for their dip in form.
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| Quote ="Irregular Hoops"It looks like our run of defeats is helping the dobbins fans take their minds off the dismantling of their team...'"
Posting about us again #obsessed
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| Quote ="10-5"Posting about us again
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From a poster with 10-5 as their username...
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| Feels like 2005 to me.Putting all our eggs in one basket and concentrating on the cup.
I'm hoping we end up with the same result
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| No doubt this slump is disappointing and it hurts, but let's not forget the 9 or 10 games previous to this. We will hit form again, hopefully when it matters. There's nothing serious to worry about unlike a lot of clubs.
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| I think hull have gone.
Peaked in round 17 , far too early.
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| Quote ="carl_spackler"With Watts I think his defensive failings are about attitude, but the deterioration in his attacking threat is his weight. He's not having enough impact in the collision to either break tackles or get an offload away. Needs to fix both.'"
Just out of interest, has Watts lost weight because of a coaching decision to try to improve his speed and agility?
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| just wondered what people make of ellis form? hes tackling well but no real go forward, expected more from him in this area,or maybe ive only noticed that because where crap atm,
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| Quote ="hull2524"just wondered what people make of ellis form? hes tackling well but no real go forward, expected more from him in this area,or maybe ive only noticed that because where crap atm,'"
Tackles like a machine, but not yet had a long run of games. I'm sure Miller can help his attacking game.
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| We've won 5 of the 7 games he's played for us and if Tickle had started last night it'd have been 6 out of 7.
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| Quote ="Sandra The Terrorist"Just out of interest, has Watts lost weight because of a coaching decision to try to improve his speed and agility?'"
Not sure, but if it was that it hasn't worked. Now built more like a backrower and getting wrapped up far too easily.
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| Quote ="tommyfromhull"Tackles like a machine, but not yet had a long run of games. I'm =#0000FFsure Miller can help his attacking game.'"
Thought there were 2 or 3 moments where that nearly started to show last night, one of the very few, very slight, bright signs.
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| Quote ="carl_spackler"Thought there were 2 or 3 moments where that nearly started to show last night, one of the very few, very slight, bright signs.'"
Me too. Like the look of Miller already.
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| actually thought the kid tackled well, wakey targeted him but he stop up well
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| Quote ="tommyfromhull"From a poster with 10-5 as their username...'"
Yeah,cos it involves my club.Thats the point...
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| Quote ="tommyfromhull"Me too. Like the look of Miller already.'"
The better of our 2 halfbacks last night, I thought.
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| Quote ="Sandra The Terrorist"Just out of interest, has Watts lost weight because of a coaching decision to try to improve his speed and agility?'"
Must admit that I was surprised and impressed that he didn't blob out during his injury lay-off. Does seem to be showing signs of the indiscipline and laziness that undermined his undoubted talent while at Rovers, though - seems to need to be constantly booted in the pants. New metaphoric installation for Hull's gym for him?:
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| Quote ="hull2524"just wondered what people make of ellis form? hes tackling well but no real go forward, expected more from him in this area,or maybe ive only noticed that because where crap atm,'"
Defensively he's an animal. But in attack, he's not getting used correctly. He's receiving the ball basically stood still. He should be running great lines that he's know to do. It's not just him it's also the halves who aren't helping him. Like I said he's just receiving the ball when we pass the ball out wide slowy. They must think he'll do a 'Manu' and throw three players off him.
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| Quote ="carl_spackler"Not sure, but if it was that it hasn't worked. Now built more like a backrower and getting wrapped up far too easily.'"
Seems a strange idea if it is the case, can't think of another reason for a young prop to lose weight, unless he's ill. He was a pretty big lad with a big frame that looked like it could easily handle plenty of timber when first he came to us so a bit more bulk for him to punch holes and utilise his excellent off load game would seem to be the most obvious way to go.
Hopefully it's just a temporary set back because I really think he could almost do anything he wants in the game with the correct application.
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| @SuperLeague: Disciplinary: Wakefield player Justin Poore has been issued with a caution over his tackling technique in last night’s win at Hull FC
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| Quote ="MrPhilb"@SuperLeague: Disciplinary: Wakefield player Justin Poore has been issued with a caution over his tackling technique in last night’s win at Hull FC'"
At least some things are consistent.
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| Quote ="MrPhilb"@SuperLeague: Disciplinary: Wakefield player Justin Poore has been issued with a caution over his tackling technique in last night’s win at Hull FC'"
So you can do that, but woe betide you if your shoulder makes contact.
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