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| I am sure pearson is less bothered about the whole thing, quite frankly we should not even rise to the situation as its below us in so many ways
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| The reasons why this is happening now is that a certain family are trying to force the council into selling the stadium, the reason they refused first time round was that he wanted to take out a mortgage and not buy with his own so called wealth that is why the council would not let him have it to put a venue with no debt into debt, at the end of the day unless city get promoted to the prem which is highly unlikely and he continues to lose millions every season then he will simply walk away, he hasn,t got the wealth to run a prem club and pay prem wages. If you compare him to some of the owners in the prem he looks like he,s on dole. Just another threepence hapeney millionaire trying to make himself look like he,s got more money than he has , he,ll soon get bored and clear off somewhere else ps dont buy his generators A rugby league city always was and always will be
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| I work at the learning zone college and to my knowledge we don't pay to have stuff put up. Also it's worth noting they took down a signed FC shirt off the wall and for some reason only a rovers shirt and city shirt are present!
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| Quote ="voodooroo"I am sure pearson is less bothered about the whole thing, quite frankly we should not even rise to the situation as its below us in so many ways'"
then feel free to do nothing
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| Quote ="Standee"Munshkin was replying to more than one message (mine was the journalism comment)'"
My reply would have worked better if part way through editing it my connection hadn't crashed out meaning what I put made no sense.
Sorry all.
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| Quote ="Standee"then feel free to do nothing'"
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| The picture fiasco is a problem, but for me this is the agenda that should be pushed.....
1 Why is the SMC losing money?
2 Why is the (tax payer) stadium criminally underused?
3 Why is the (tax payer) stadium criminally overpriced?
4 Have other sports(baskeball etc) been priced out of the facilities?
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| Quote ="voodooroo"icon_iamwithstupid.gif'"
So, I am stupid for doing something am I?
fair enough
[url=http://www.thisishullandeastriding.co.uk/Rugby-legend-Johnny-Whiteley-awarded-honorary/story-15061764-detail/story.htmlThis man deserves better[/url
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| Quote ="JACK DETH"The picture fiasco is a problem, but for me this is the agenda that should be pushed.....
1 Why is the SMC losing money?
2 Why is the (tax payer) stadium criminally underused?
3 Why is the (tax payer) stadium criminally overpriced?
4 Have other sports(baskeball etc) been priced out of the facilities?'"
I think additional arguments might dilute your main one. The Jonny Whiteley one is simple, legitimate and should have widespread support. Going after other targets is trickier and potentially more controversial. I wouldn't be opening other fronts at this point. fwiw.
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| Quote ="voodooroo"[uI am sure pearson is less bothered about the whole thing,[/u quite frankly we should not even rise to the situation as its below us in so many ways'"
Couldn't be further from the truth.
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| Quote ="JACK DETH"The picture fiasco is a problem, but for me this is the agenda that should be pushed.....
1 Why is the SMC losing money?2 Why is the (tax payer) stadium criminally underused?
3 Why is the (tax payer) stadium criminally overpriced?
4 Have other sports(baskeball etc) been priced out of the facilities?'"
I am probably wrong but could it have anything to do with the lower gates for both clubs in recent years?
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| Quote ="MOT"I am probably wrong but could it have anything to do with the lower gates for both clubs in recent years?'"
In part, quite possibly, but not in it's entirity. Just think about the people that no longer use facilities at the KC and the revenue streams that have been lost.
As cod'ead has said, it's a classic asset strippers approach.
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| I basically said its a community facility and it should be used to hiighlight great sporting heros of our city, that the bloke from City isnt going to argue against the SMC?allams as theyre his employers and that there should be an independant party involved in the SMC
Also asked Peter how he would feel if the BBC charged him for displaying his photos in their building
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| The thing is, he can strip it all he likes. The council is not losing a penny and has only ever had small change as a dividend. The only people losing are the SMC. Let Hull City adn whichever of the Allam's companies want to prop it up do so. The council should say thank you for the philanthropy of running its facility at no cost to the local taxpayer. The stadium is maintained in line with the agreements put in place with the SMC - if they cant make money then they should sell the SMC to someone who can.
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| Are people going to boycott the Allam British Open (squash) now at the kc?
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| Quote ="Hutchie"I basically said its a community facility and it should be used to hiighlight great sporting heros of our city, that the bloke from City isnt going to argue against the SMC?allams as theyre his employers and that there should be an independant party involved in the SMC
Also asked Peter how he would feel if the BBC charged him for displaying his photos in their building'"
In honesty Hutchie, Levy was a c0ck during that interview (which isn't a departure from the norm), I've sent a whole list of questions but I get the feeling that the BBC [ilocally[/i don't have any apetite, we shall see what develops in the next 48 hours, could be interesting. Anyone seen Sadlers article, can't get the Rugby papers down here so not seen it, but he did say he would mention it?
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| Quote ="MOT"Are people going to boycott the Allam British Open (squash) now at the kc?'"
Just ripped my ticket up.
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| Quote ="Standee"In honesty Hutchie, Levy was a c0ck during that interview (which isn't a departure from the norm), I've sent a whole list of questions but I get the feeling that the BBC [ilocally[/i don't have any apetite, we shall see what develops in the next 48 hours, could be interesting. Anyone seen Sadlers article, can't get the Rugby papers down here so not seen it, but he did say he would mention it?'"
Mr HWS said its in the League Express (think thats what paper he picked up at lunch). Big article aparently. I will know more when he gets home.
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| Quote ="Staffs FC"Just ripped my ticket up.'"
I hope you jumped off a doll's house and squashed a grape too?
(sorry, couldn't resist!)
People who care need to call in to Sports Talk tonight, keep sending emails etc etc.
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| Going to pick up a copy on my way home.
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| Quote ="Hull White Star"Mr HWS said its in the League Express (think thats what paper he picked up at lunch). Big article aparently. I will know more when he gets home.'"
Keep us posted, thanks.
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| Quote ="MOT"Are people going to boycott the Allam British Open (squash) now at the kc?'"
i'll be in manchester for the magic weekend
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| Quote ="Mick Cranes Sidestep"The thing is, he can strip it all he likes. The council is not losing a penny and has only ever had small change as a dividend. The only people losing are the SMC. Let Hull City adn whichever of the Allam's companies want to prop it up do so. The council should say thank you for the philanthropy of running its facility at no cost to the local taxpayer. The stadium is maintained in line with the agreements put in place with the SMC - if they cant make money then they should sell the SMC to someone who can.'"
You need to look at the bigger picture and try reading the published accounts.
The SMC has only racked up losses since the Allams took over and while those losses have been posted, cash at hand has increased to over £1m. Hull City's book value has also tanked since Allam's take over: from being -£39m in 2010 to -£51m in 2012.
As I've said, this is classic MBO takeover strategy. His next move will be to "show" the council that the whole pack of cards is in danger of collapsing unless they "sell" him the KC and the adjoining land for a nominal sum. If that should ever happen, the only winners will be the Allam family
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| Quote ="cod'ead"You need to look at the bigger picture and try reading the published accounts.
The SMC has only racked up losses since the Allams took over and while those losses have been posted, cash at hand has increased to over £1m. Hull City's book value has also tanked since Allam's take over: from being -£39m in 2010 to -£51m in 2012.
As I've said, this is classic MBO takeover strategy.Hisnext move will be to "show" the council that the whole pack of cards is in danger of collapsing unlessthey "sell" him the KC and the adjoining land for a nominal sum. If that should ever happen, the only winners will be the Allam family'"
I understand that, but fortunately it will never be sold for peppercorn - too much red tape for that. I get their game.
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| Quote ="The Milky Bar Kid"i'll be in manchester for the magic weekend'"
For the whole week it's on?
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