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| Quote ="Roland_R"Think he's gone for a bit of fitness on choosing Cusack and Dowes over Moa. Saints are strong up front. And we're going to need the threshold to match it.
Good decision in my mind. Still got the impact with Manu/Lauaki/O'meley/Radford!'"
Cusack by all accounts looks less fit than Moa.
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| So with Calderwood injured, the two senior players not selected are Moa and Burnett. With all due respect, as senior players go they are two your more junior. With a nearly fully fit squad this is going to happen every round - not in the least controversial IMO.
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| Quote ="Smiggs"Do people really believe the difference between us winning and losing on Saturday will be Sam Moa?'"
I think it's more the case that people want the team to be selected on form and also that they want two out of the four props to be able to add a bit of impact. I don't think there's a place for Radford, Dowes and Cusack in the same team - they're all too similar.
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| Quote ="Amadeo Avogadro"I think it's more the case that people want the team to be selected on form and also that they want two out of the four props to be able to add a bit of impact. I don't think there's a place for Radford, Dowes and Cusack in the same team - they're all too similar.'"
There is no form we've played a couple of friendlies one was against Sheffield the other against a side that lost all of it's pre-season games. We will have had harder training sessions than those two run outs.
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| Quote ="Superbowl Scott"Tansey
Hall
Turner
Yeaman
Briscoe
Horne
Long
Dowes
Berrigan
Radford
Tickle
Manu
Fitzgibbon
Houghton
Lauaki
O'meley
Dowes'"
Think your team relies a bit too much on Dowes
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| Quote ="Amadeo Avogadro"Says Calderwood is injured, but no mention of Moa. Has he just left him out in favour of the 'workhorse' props we've become so used to?
I'd expect he'll select a Whiting/Hall partnership on the right.'"
If Calderwood is injured then that makes the selection significantly less odd. Bad luck for Calders, and also for us as I don't think that Hall works that well as a winger. I agree that a Whiting/Hall partnership would be the best combination.
Moa seemed to have shown up well enough in pre-season to have earned a spot. Maybe as Joe says he's gone for fitness, although Cusack didn't look that fit against Rovers. I don't agree with that tactic but it's not a disaster.
The proof will be in how it all pans out at the weekend.
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| Quote ="Smiggs"Do people really believe the difference between us winning and losing on Saturday will be Sam Moa?'"
Correct, we have no idea what is happening in training or any thing, for me it looks a strong squad, I am happy with it.
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| Quote ="Kosh"If Calderwood is injured then that makes the selection significantly less odd. Bad luck for Calders, and also for us as I don't think that Hall works that well as a winger. I agree that a Whiting/Hall partnership would be the best combination.
Moa seemed to have shown up well enough in pre-season to have earned a spot. Maybe as Joe says he's gone for fitness, although Cusack didn't look that fit against Rovers. I don't agree with that tactic but it's not a disaster.
[uThe proof will be in how it all pans out at the weekend.[/u'"
Nail on the head.
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| Quote ="Smiggs"There is no form we've played a couple of friendlies one was against Sheffield the other against a side that lost all of it's pre-season games. We will have had harder training sessions than those two run outs.'"
Perhaps you're right. Personally, I would have liked to have seen Moa in there and feel that he has done enough to warrant a place.
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| 1 - Tansey
2 - Briscoe
3 - Yeaman
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5 - Turner or Hall (Think Turner may get the nod after all the positive comments from the camp)
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7- Long
8 - Dowes
9 - Berrigan
10 - Cusack
11 - Fitzgibbon
12 - Tickle
13 - Radford
14 - Meley
15 - Lauaki
16 - Houghton
17 - Manu
Washbrook and Hall to miss out.
Think Whiting has done enough to be in the team from the two friendlies we have played. He will hopefully have Manu & Lauaki on the bench for impact with Meley also covering.
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| Quote ="Kosh"If Calderwood is injured then that makes the selection significantly less odd. Bad luck for Calders, and also for us as I don't think that Hall works that well as a winger. I agree that a Whiting/Hall partnership would be the best combination.'"
I think with Calderwood out, Whiting has to play for his defensive abilities.
Quote ="Kosh"Moa seemed to have shown up well enough in pre-season to have earned a spot. Maybe as Joe says he's gone for fitness, although Cusack didn't look that fit against Rovers. I don't agree with that tactic but it's not a disaster.'"
I don't suppose it is. If Manu, O'Meley and Hame are on form we should still have enough impact. Of the impact players in the squad, Lauaki is the one I would have left out, if any.
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| As has been said Hall doesn't do too well as a wingman so I'd be tempted to play Turner on the right with Whiting inside him. Gutted for Calderwood though.
Not too disappointed about the Moa thing, I think O'Meley, Manu and Lauaki give us enough impact for this game, there are going to be periods were we are under pressure and I'd be happier with Cusack for this, I think!
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| I think Whiting and Turner will get one side with Yeaman & Briscoe on the other. There has been so much positive stuff coming out about Turner in the off season.
Hall will be better when the pitches dry up a bit and his attacking game will come to the fore.
The ground will be heavy this week and i presume Agar will be playing a 3rd prop at loose man. It makes sense though and with a good chance of rain as well it will limit any flowing rugby.
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| Quote ="east hull FC fan"As has been said Hall doesn't do too well as a wingman so I'd be tempted to play Turner on the right with Whiting inside him. Gutted for Calderwood though.
Not too disappointed about the Moa thing, I think O'Meley, Manu and Lauaki give us enough impact for this game, there are going to be periods were we are under pressure and I'd be happier with Cusack for this, I think!'"
I agree with that. Sam is unlucky because he has done well in pre season. His season isn't over because of this squad selection. The selection is fine for the game. It is up to those selected to be at the top of their game and warrant their places.
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Hall
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Yeaman
Briscoe
Horne
Long
Dowes
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Radford
Tickle
Manu
Fitzgibbon
Houghton
Lauaki
O'meley
Dowes'"
Close , but Turner & Washy will miss out
Good choice of rotating Dowes with Dowes though
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| Think Tickle needs a good game have not being impressed with him in pre - season
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| Turner and Washbrook will be the unlucky ones. Hall to start on the wing.
Two props on the bench with Houghton/Berro and either Manu/Lauiki as the others depending on who starts.
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Cusack
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Radford
Dowes
Lauaki
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Bit dissapointed Moa hasn't made the squad really.
Gone for washy instead of houghton. Berro should be good for 30 mins each half, washy to cover the rest and also give fitz a breather, can't see him making 80mins against saints
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12 Tickle
13 Washbrook
14 Houghton
15 Manu
16 Lauaki
17 Radford
18 Turner
19 Dowes
Not happy with the exclusion of Moa, I'd have him in the 17 over Dowes, Radford and Cusack every day of the week. If Calderwood is injured then fair enough. Gone with Whiting over Turner for his defence and experience, a Turner and Hall partnership would be very inexperienced. Put Hall on the wing as I think you've got to find a place for him. Gone with Cusack over Dowes as its a complete waste of a quota spot if you don't.
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| People moaning about Radford, Dowes and Cusack in the squad need to remember that our pack was not the big problem last year. Radford has the weght of the captaincy removed from his shoulders and in the Rovers friendly he looked like a new player to me.
We still have impact with Manu and Lauaki and if Meley is played from the bench he will also add to that.
Give the team and coach a chance before moaning about it. We all have our favourites in the team and we are dissapointed when they are not in.
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| Quote ="hullbg"People moaning about Radford, Dowes and Cusack in the squad need to remember that our pack was not the big problem last year. Radford has the weght of the captaincy removed from his shoulders and in the Rovers friendly he looked like a new player to me.
We still have impact with Manu and Lauaki and if Meley is played from the bench he will also add to that.
Give the team and coach a chance before moaning about it. We all have our favourites in the team and we are dissapointed when they are not in.'"
couldnt of put it better myself,well said.
also does anybody actualy no why moa is not in?
Didnt think so.
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| no info about Calderwoods "injury" anywhere that I can see, I hope the increased communication isn't waining.
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