Or a tired nine who is playing on one leg and still flogged for nearly 80 minutes.
I dont think Smith is tired he is just an old school coach who is now completely out of touch with the modern game.A rambling Joe Biden who shows no passion,living up to his name of Tinkering Tony ,repeating the same script week after week and thinks he can turn it round.Dont think it will be long till we see his other knickname of Toys out Tony emerge when Adam puts the pressure on.
Its a bit like the Conservative party thinking they will will the next general election
Deluded

Bizzarely our Head of Conditioning used to be our Sports Scientist. This is what is says on the club's website. Jesus.



Quite telling just how young our backroom staff are. Head Physio 27, Assistant Physio 21, "Assistant Sports Rehabilitator" 26, Performance Analyst 26, Sports Scientist 23 today (happy birthday).

Everything on the cheap this season. Adds fuel to the fire that the club had written it off before a tackle was made (or missed in our case)

Maybe we had some top quality signings liked up, but as soon as that grade A license came in and we were exempt from relegation the club were straight on the blower to this years bargain basement signings instead to keep costs down

The club is run like an amateur club from top to bottom , no wonder the players lack professionalism and the so called culture is bad . It’s what’s getting passed down from the very top . I bet some championship teams are ran better , even some players aren’t happy how unprofessional the club is ran . Training not tough enough , training times getting moved back on the day a few hours then some players turning up when it suits .

Smith told to Get Your job done is utter
Rubbish
Adam should be saying that what he’s doing is not what he hired him for !!!

The instruction should be do a different job and here’s what I’m telling you to do

Create a WINNING culture - it’s that simple

I don’t know if any other culture worth having in sport

Imagine Toto Wolff at Mercedes saying that winning isn’t everything Lewis
We have to make sure you present yourself well and are a little bit woke

I mean what the hell is this Culture shoite

WINNING solves every thing and develops a positive well meaning culture

Why don’t you try it Adam and Tony ?

Some fans think, if we signed a 7, this would transform the performances- Nope.
Changing the Coach? - with the current backroom staff,of 1 S&C -Nope,
Winning stems from preparation , if you prepare like an amateur, you play like an amateur.
This group would benefit from a more fully resourced experienced backroom staff.
A reduction in experienced staff in S&C is suicidal in todays game, this is evident on the performances displayed.
Salford for example, have 2 S&C, the difference in fitness between us and Salford is alarming.

The more I read the more it seems Smith doesn't have the tools.

Lack of backroom staff
Well below cap
More training facilities

He definitely should be doing better, but he is coaching a club massively under funded on and off the field.

Like Paul Rowley is……

Paul Rowley has more experienced,and better resourced backroom staff, than we have .He also has a competent DOR..
IF we approached Rowley, I'd assume he would insist in bringing his backroom staff with him...
No need to guess, the response from Pearson would be.
The same response, when approaching both McNamara and Watson...

Pearson at the press meeting was asked if he was spending to the CAP and he said yes. Tony was given the money he asked for.

This also happened in 2009 under Kath, Crocker didn't arrive but neither did a replacement. The likes of Carvell, Sing and Dykes left and we got the likes of Thorman and a 'project' in Sam Moa.

Licensing doesn't help us on the field as we get lazier, but I'm bloody glad it's in place right now as I wouldn't fancy our chances in a relegation showdown at Magic and at Wimbledon.

Maybe Pearson was clever in the way he answered the question, maybe we're at our financial sustainability salary cap, not the actual super League salary cap?

Not true with Crocker. We announced Fitzgibbon not long after for the following season. O’Meley and Long also joined for that 2010 season. Pretty sure Lauaki joined mid season of 2009 too. Calderwood replaced Sing. Thorman was appalling but was gone pretty sharpish and replaced with Long. So Kath and Rule did splash out until the end really.

Their biggest mistake was getting rid of Peter Sharp and standing by Agar for so long.

They did indeed invest for 2010 likely due to fear of pass sales falling. But my point was there was no urgency to save 2009 as with no relegation it didn't matter.

But they did make mid season signings that year. Lauaki, Tansey and Cordoba, albeit all terrible. And then splashed out to address it the following season. Not defending them either, but they did spend the money.

Tansey wasn't a bad player, had some good games, was a absolute nightmare off the pitch though.

Wasn't lauakis debut for the club delayed after he broke his hand falling through a conservatory door?

That's a belter. Sounds better than a alcohol related incident

It's the only thing he broke whilst at the club .

The more I watch and read the more I feel like this is one of those Ramsay Kitchen Nightmare classic episodes.

Gareth Ellis has finally convinced me on Adam as the clueless owner who spends all his time in his office clacking on the calculator wondering how to make ends meet. Whilst his Swedish muppet head chef ( the head coach ) is cooking up absolute shoite in the kitchen.
James Clarke is the clueless loyal wife. Crying that she just wants it all to come right like it was in 16/17.

The players and asst coaches are just the kitchen staff and waiting staff.

The whole restaurant (Hull FC fine dining) is totally flucked.

Adam can’t solve it because he is the problem.

He needs to put the Club up for Sale and move his passionless head chef on to another job

Here’s the secret of coaching from
Our esteemed Head Coach

“We've got to get angry and get desperate before we get out there; otherwise, the opposition is going to embarrass us.
They were embarrassing us there. We've got to fight before we get to that stage and prevent that from happening”


Is that it ? Is that the answer after 18 months of being in charge ?

He does know that anger on a pitch lasts about 5 mins - surely he knows that?

What he needs is a week full of anger and determination and professionalism in training. Something Gaz Ellis said is missing in spades.

Players in a poor team are usually in one of two categories, and anger doesn’t solve any of their issues.

1. Can’t do it - you know some in here

2. Won’t do it - once again fans know some in here

Tony needs to sort out both issues but Adam needs to go shoulder to shoulder with him and fix both issues

1. Training and confidence boosting for group 1

2. Man management for this group. Fit in or fluck off but done in the fairest way possible with consequences and rewards

TS management style always hits me and somebody you would like in charge when things are good, morale is high and he builds your confidence and belief with his ultra positivity. When in a bit of a hole I’m not sure he’s somebody you’d want leading you in the trenches, going to war and leading by example (metaphorically) putting a rocket up their backsides.

Great coaches can do both.

His interviews are becoming comical, as much as I enjoy watching the demise of FC I sometimes read them and think what the hell is this guy on about. I’d be fuming as a speccie watching some of these recent performances and then hearing and seeing his thoughts, he’s got some cheek.

Very good historically, not sure he is now. Not sure what a solution or other option would be though

I've been very critical of Smith and I think it's only right I try and be a little more balanced in my criticism. There is something I need to congratulate him on.

I went into Beverley last night (I'm in my 40s now, so I was done by 10pm).

I spoke with a few Hull fans and they didn't really seem as low as I did about the derby. I think relief that we had an OK second half and we didn't get gubbed.

Then it occured to me. Tony has changed the culture. We'd just lost a derby (by 24 points) but felt relief it wasn't by more. That is a culture change for me as I've certainly never known fellow fans be forgiving of a heavy derby defeat.

We are culturally changing to accept defeat, so long as it's not too heavy.

You did that, Tony.

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